I saw this at detnews.com, hope it's not a repost:
I hope they build it. Looks very cool
Alas, some bad news today in Detroit too...
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...04280404&imw=Y
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Our illustrator nearly fell off his feet when he heard mention of a possible Chrysler Cuda -- twin to the upcoming Dodge Challenger -- during an interview with Chip Foose, hot rodder, television talent and all-round good guy, at the New York auto show.
Though Plymouth, the original brand to sell the Cuda, has long been out of business, Chrysler seems to be the apparent heir. Whether the market needs yet another muscle car remains to be seen. Chrysler could likely bring such a car to market with relative ease.
(from http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...TO03/704250419 )Our illustrator nearly fell off his feet when he heard mention of a possible Chrysler Cuda -- twin to the upcoming Dodge Challenger -- during an interview with Chip Foose, hot rodder, television talent and all-round good guy, at the New York auto show.
Though Plymouth, the original brand to sell the Cuda, has long been out of business, Chrysler seems to be the apparent heir. Whether the market needs yet another muscle car remains to be seen. Chrysler could likely bring such a car to market with relative ease.
I hope they build it. Looks very cool
Alas, some bad news today in Detroit too...
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...04280404&imw=Y
Maybe this is the answer? http://www.freegashelp.com/
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Looks extremely ugly to me. 
JMHO though.
JMHO though.
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I don't like it either. Not to mention if you're going to use the grill inlets from a 71 'Cuda you had better give it the four headlights that a 71 had...not two like all the other 70's model barracudas got.
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Yup, it's another retro ride from DCX. Just like the Challenger. It'd be nice if it looked a little bit like Chrysler's cars, but you could still tell it was a 'Cuda. But, this is just another retro ride.
Wake me up when Chrysler get's it's styling back.
Wake me up when Chrysler get's it's styling back.
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I would actually bet money on Chrysler getting a version of the Challenger. The Chrysler division has absolutely no coupes in it's showroom, and despirately needs one, and no doubt, Challenger is the perfect "vehicle" to create one.
That said......
There are quite a few reasons why it won't be another muscle car like a 'Cuda.
1) Chrysler hasn't used the name in 33 years. Ford came close to losing the Cobra name after just 15 & lost the Futura name after 25. To think the new owners of the 'Cuda name (there's at least 2... a parts cleaning machine company and a fashion magazine) won't try and cash in, or at least make things extremely difficult.
2) a 'Cuda would simply canabilize sales from the Challenger. This is an instance where it would actually take far more money to market a 'Cuda than it would cost to develop it. Yet, for all this extra money, nothing more is going to happen than moving buyers from one Chrysler car to another... even though they were going to wind up in a Chrysler showroom anyway. Ford and GM came to the same conclusion by not producing Capri or Firebird that was essentially nothing more than a badge and trim job on their Mustang & Camaro. I'm sure Chrysler.... which will be producing these coupes in far smaller numbers than Mustangs or Camaros.... who is under the gun from Daimler to regain profits, won't be doing repetitious models.
3) Finally..... look at the direction Chrysler is going! Any coupe that Chrysler makes is going to be closer to a Lincoln Mark VIII or Cadillac Eldorado than a retro-60s Muscle car.
There's alot of speculation running around regarding a Chrysler coupe. I can tell you 1st hand from experience, car mag editors to often try to get the tail to wag the dog.... create a demand for something. Though it for the most part fails, sometimes it actually works (it was the chorus of car mags that helped grease the way for us to get the Holden made GTO). But there has to be a practical reason for doing it.
In Holden's case, Pontiac just lost both the Firebird and the Grand Prix coupe, and needed a fill in. A 'Cuda (like the one pictured) doesn't fit in Chrysler's portfolio or language, let alone their showroom. Dodge, yes. Chrysler, no.
There is no real reason for a Chrysler 'Cuda.
There is a real reason for a Chrysler luxury coupe.
Put your money on the latter.
That said......
There are quite a few reasons why it won't be another muscle car like a 'Cuda.
1) Chrysler hasn't used the name in 33 years. Ford came close to losing the Cobra name after just 15 & lost the Futura name after 25. To think the new owners of the 'Cuda name (there's at least 2... a parts cleaning machine company and a fashion magazine) won't try and cash in, or at least make things extremely difficult.
2) a 'Cuda would simply canabilize sales from the Challenger. This is an instance where it would actually take far more money to market a 'Cuda than it would cost to develop it. Yet, for all this extra money, nothing more is going to happen than moving buyers from one Chrysler car to another... even though they were going to wind up in a Chrysler showroom anyway. Ford and GM came to the same conclusion by not producing Capri or Firebird that was essentially nothing more than a badge and trim job on their Mustang & Camaro. I'm sure Chrysler.... which will be producing these coupes in far smaller numbers than Mustangs or Camaros.... who is under the gun from Daimler to regain profits, won't be doing repetitious models.
3) Finally..... look at the direction Chrysler is going! Any coupe that Chrysler makes is going to be closer to a Lincoln Mark VIII or Cadillac Eldorado than a retro-60s Muscle car.
There's alot of speculation running around regarding a Chrysler coupe. I can tell you 1st hand from experience, car mag editors to often try to get the tail to wag the dog.... create a demand for something. Though it for the most part fails, sometimes it actually works (it was the chorus of car mags that helped grease the way for us to get the Holden made GTO). But there has to be a practical reason for doing it.
In Holden's case, Pontiac just lost both the Firebird and the Grand Prix coupe, and needed a fill in. A 'Cuda (like the one pictured) doesn't fit in Chrysler's portfolio or language, let alone their showroom. Dodge, yes. Chrysler, no.
There is no real reason for a Chrysler 'Cuda.
There is a real reason for a Chrysler luxury coupe.
Put your money on the latter.
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Put your money on the latter.
Guy what is the word on a Firepower like production coupe. I know he program was pretty far along but it seems to have died or been put in limbo. Anything new on that.Originally Posted by guionM
There is a real reason for a Chrysler luxury coupe.Put your money on the latter.
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Wouldn't this edge in on Crossfire sales?
2 seats or not, crossfire is just a hair too close to call them non-competitors imo.
2 seats or not, crossfire is just a hair too close to call them non-competitors imo.
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Ah yes, the poor little Capri. Seems it was a clone of more than one thing over years, not just Mustang. At least GM kept the Firebird consistent.Originally Posted by guionM
... Capri or Firebird that was essentially nothing more than a badge and trim job on their Mustang & Camaro...
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From this article:http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...04280404&imw=Y
You'd think there would be people jumping all over that
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"Between car insurance and maintenance costs and not working I had to get some money to make payment on bills," said Roose, 47, who has tried without luck for months to sell his 1955 Chevy pickup and 1962 Camaro.
"Between car insurance and maintenance costs and not working I had to get some money to make payment on bills," said Roose, 47, who has tried without luck for months to sell his 1955 Chevy pickup and 1962 Camaro.
You'd think there would be people jumping all over that
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You'd think there would be people jumping all over that
Yea, if I had a car that was made 5 years before it was produced....Originally Posted by My Red 93Z-28
From this article:http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...04280404&imw=Y You'd think there would be people jumping all over that
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There is a real reason for a Chrysler luxury coupe.
Put your money on the latter.
Exactly. Originally Posted by guionM
There is no real reason for a Chrysler 'Cuda.There is a real reason for a Chrysler luxury coupe.
Put your money on the latter.
Who in the world is going to absolutely refuse to consider a retro Dodge Challenger but just would just love to put money on a retro Chrysler Cuda thats identical to the Challenger outside a few trim pieces?
Even the Firebird purists sound sensible compared to this one. At least Camaro and Firebird co-existed with some differentiation in the not to distant past. Nobody outside of Barret Jackson has mentioned Cuda' in 30 years and you're going to tell me there is more than five people who can have enough experience with the two, and can actually remember it enough to have any reasonable preference? Oh, and who have no problem with shuffling the car from its appropriate brand?
Now, if you wanted to take the Challenger, put some modern styling on it and take advantage of the power and size of it to make a competent luxury coupe to compete with Cadillac and maybe Infiniti... That would make perfect sense.
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2 seats or not, crossfire is just a hair too close to call them non-competitors imo.
Crossfire is dead IIRC.Originally Posted by MissedShift
Wouldn't this edge in on Crossfire sales?2 seats or not, crossfire is just a hair too close to call them non-competitors imo.
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I agree that a retro Chrysler Cuda sounds like a dumb idea, but for two years I've been hearing insider rumors suggesting that it's being considered. That could just be wishful thinking from inside the company, but... just because it seems like a stupid move doesn't mean there isn't an automaker dumb enough to make it, as we all know.
At least these cars look like proper Mopars.
At least these cars look like proper Mopars.
The advantage of offering a Cuda is, they could capture all the folks who have fond memories of one, for almost no cost at all since the new Challenger is already a 'go'. Similar to the way GM leveraged the Monaro design costs in offering the new GTO.