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30thZ286speed 10-16-2012 08:02 PM

Chevy SS/Commodore VF Renderings
 
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Found these on various sites across the web.

Attachment 6638

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http://www.g8board.com/forums/attach...1&d=1344562364

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m52/tp30/vfss4.jpg


The question is, will the SS have the Holden front and grill with a bow-tie on it (like the mid-east Chevrolet's) or will it have Chevy's new corporate grill and front end styling?

Silverado C-10 10-16-2012 09:49 PM

Re: Chevy SS/Commodore VF Renderings
 
The yellow Chevy looks like a G8 with a Cruze grill.

HuJass 10-17-2012 07:21 AM

Re: Chevy SS/Commodore VF Renderings
 
Based on those renderings, the new Commodore doesn't look much different than the current car.

colin911 10-17-2012 10:23 AM

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GM: Please don't put a Malibu front end on this car.

ImportedRoomate 10-17-2012 12:26 PM

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It is going to look more like the blue and black rendering.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....-shots-628.jpg

King Moose SS 10-17-2012 01:37 PM

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eh. I'll await till Feburary. Those pictures are still using too much current GM products to make their renders. Reminds me of all the 2014 impala renderings which looked nothing like the final product.

bossco 10-17-2012 09:25 PM

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I like both the blue and yellow renders, I wonder how the production car will look? Anyways, V8 RWD Performance sedan :D - damn tough choice if the SS makes it for a few years SS or GT??????

I'd say GT500 but I figure with the way Ford is going along with the economy a GT500 kitted out right will easily be 80k or more come next generation.

30thZ286speed 10-17-2012 10:33 PM

Re: Chevy SS/Commodore VF Renderings
 
Nascar "SS"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4S3fyACYAATHz2.jpg:large

If this is an indicator, looks like we are getting a Holden with Chevy badges. That makes me happy because Holden's usually have good aggressive styling.

30thZ286speed 10-17-2012 10:47 PM

Re: Chevy SS/Commodore VF Renderings
 
Youtube video of the new 2013 Commodore VF Race car. If Nascar adopted to this type of car, now that would be cool and get me watching again!

[autostream]http://autostream.com/camaroz28/?page_type=firebirdplayerthumbnail&framepage=2723& transactionid=1350532049-6313121284&posted_by=30thZ286speed_www.camaroz28.c om&youtube_video_id=qdayDUhCYwE[/autostream] Racing Team 2013 Holden Commodore Car Of The Future - YouTube[/url]

F1GT 10-17-2012 11:57 PM

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Chevy SS in G8 Skin:

Chevy SS prototype spotted wearing Pontiac G8 clothes

There's already a forum dedicated to it:

2014 Chevy SS Forums - 2014 Chevy SS News and Information

crYnOid 10-18-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed (Post 6923665)
Youtube video of the new 2013 Commodore VF Race car. If Nascar adopted to this type of car, now that would be cool and get me watching again!

[autostream]http://autostream.com/camaroz28/?page_type=firebirdplayerthumbnail&framepage=2723& transactionid=1350532049-6313121284&posted_by=30thZ286speed_www.camaroz28.c om&youtube_video_id=qdayDUhCYwE[/autostream] Racing Team 2013 Holden Commodore Car Of The Future - YouTube[/url]

Nope, that a VE. VF hasn't been released.

JeremyNYR 10-18-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by crYnOid (Post 6923673)
Nope, that a VE. VF hasn't been released.

So if VF follows VE, was VE preceeded by VD? :eek: sorry, i couldn't help myself :D

guionM 10-18-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNYR (Post 6923694)
So if VF follows VE, was VE preceeded by VD? :eek: sorry, i couldn't help myself :D

It was skipped for that very reason.

guionM 10-18-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed (Post 6923554)
Found these on various sites across the web.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m52/tp30/vf5.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...vfsupercar.jpg

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attach...1&d=1344562364

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m52/tp30/vfss4.jpg


The question is, will the SS have the Holden front and grill with a bow-tie on it (like the mid-east Chevrolet's) or will it have Chevy's new corporate grill and front end styling?

Chevrolet is moving away from the split grill. It starts with the upcoming Impala, and next up the refreshed Cruze won't have it.

GM is merging Holden and Chevrolet. The Commodore SS and Chevrolet SS will almost certainly be the same car with different logos the way Holden's Cruze, Volt, and upcoming Colorado are vs Chevrolet's versions.

BTW, this a closer rendition of the Holden/Chevrolet VF (also you can even just barely make it out on the NASCAR version):

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/..._0001_crop.jpg

Also (and I won't hold my breath till it's actually sitting in a showroom), apparently the idea of importing the Ute is back on again.

The 3 things putting it back on the table?

1. It won't look like a G8 with grille change (the VF styling is new from the front pillars up), and would be a good companion vehicle to the SS

2.GM is serious about making Chevrolet the world's biggest brand over Toyota.

3. The vehicle is CAFE neutral (although it would actually help GM's truck CAFE numbers...which are figured differently than cars...it's expected to sell in such small numbers that it wouldn't make a difference).

Plus one other thing...

The Chevy Spark wasn't predicted to sell anywhere near the numbers they're selling, and GM is scrambling to get more to dealers. This has some people at GM rethinking some of the other vehicles they don't think would sell here, and the Ute is one vehicle on the list


BTW: for those of you thinking that's just a Volt front photoshopped onto a VE, check it out again. ;)

jcamere94z28 10-18-2012 02:14 PM

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Holden = Chevy is a great thing!
I don't know if it works the other way around... but i am glad to see such a move!

ImportedRoomate 10-18-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by guionM (Post 6923704)
BTW, this a closer rendition of the Holden/Chevrolet VF (also you can even just barely make it out on the NASCAR version):

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/..._0001_crop.jpg

You sure? It seems like the lower opening is much larger than the top. The top also looks to be jelly bean shaped.

King Moose SS 10-18-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by guionM (Post 6923704)
Also (and I won't hold my breath till it's actually sitting in a showroom), apparently the idea of importing the Ute is back on again.

My next car was going to be either this codename "SS" or the upcoming Charger with the Hemi 8 Speed. (From what I gathered both will be coming around the same time)

But... if their is even the slightest chance of a Ute. I'd wait for it. I'll keep my fingers crossed. :D



Plus one other thing...

The Chevy Spark wasn't predicted to sell anywhere near the numbers they're selling, and GM is scrambling to get more to dealers. This has some people at GM rethinking some of the other vehicles they don't think would sell here, and the Ute is one vehicle on the list
The Spark is selling well in the U.S? Or is the Spark welling well internationally?

ImportedRoomate 10-19-2012 06:34 AM

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Its selling well in the US.

Chevy Spark catches fire, posts strong early sales results

King Moose SS 10-19-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportedRoomate (Post 6923756)

Who woulda thunk? I'm usually very good at guessing when a car will be a success or not. I would of never guessed the spark to a be success due to it being so close to sonic. But I guess GM made reasonable predictions on it's sales expecting only 2,000 a month. That's 24,000 a year which is very achievable.

96_Camaro_B4C 10-19-2012 01:16 PM

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I didn't even realize the Spark was available here yet.

colin911 10-19-2012 02:13 PM

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The Spark is such a stupid looking car.

ImportedRoomate 10-19-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moose SS (Post 6923789)
Who woulda thunk? I'm usually very good at guessing when a car will be a success or not. I would of never guessed the spark to a be success due to it being so close to sonic. But I guess GM made reasonable predictions on it's sales expecting only 2,000 a month. That's 24,000 a year which is very achievable.

I don't think the Spark and Sonic are close. Its about the same size difference between the Sonic and Cruze. Starting at $12,250, the Spark is $2500 less which is a lot at that price point.
That 1900/month was based on the initial 18 market roll-out. They still haven't even released it to the rest of the country.

WhiteHawk 10-19-2012 04:45 PM

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I thought I remembered reading that the Ute would have to be imported as a commercial vehicle, which kills it with import duty. Did I read that here? That would be my car if it ever comes here though.

-Geoff

99SilverSS 10-19-2012 06:08 PM

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I just hope they name it something other than just "SS". This will be Chevrolet's halo car. It needs a name.

Also hope they don't put the SS emblem on the bottom of the rear doors. I've never liked that on the Holden SS's.

jg95z28 10-20-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 99SilverSS (Post 6923811)
I just hope they name it something other than just "SS". This will be Chevrolet's halo car. It needs a name.

While I agree, that ship has sailed I'm afraid. Its going to be called SS.

King Moose SS 10-20-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jg95z28 (Post 6923851)
While I agree, that ship has sailed I'm afraid. Its going to be called SS.

I mean... you never know. Codename "Z28" Camaro was going to be called Z28 Camaro until the 11 hour, when they decided to change it to "ZL1"

Silverado C-10 10-20-2012 10:34 PM

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*cough* Chevelle *cough*

:lol:

bossco 10-21-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by colin911 (Post 6923799)
The Spark is such a stupid looking car.

Not much you can do about the basic proportions, its a very compact 5-door for four people like the Scion Xa

guionM 10-22-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportedRoomate (Post 6923733)
You sure? It seems like the lower opening is much larger than the top. The top also looks to be jelly bean shaped.

That's just the angle of the picture. It's a picture that was leaked a month or so after Ed Welburn was down there to approve it. There's probably been some minor changes since then (ie: grill texture, etc) but that's the nose.

Here's an artist's version, and outside of the headlights it's also close.

http://images-2.drive.com.au/2011/12..._729-420x0.jpg


Originally Posted by WhiteHawk (Post 6923806)
I thought I remembered reading that the Ute would have to be imported as a commercial vehicle, which kills it with import duty. Did I read that here? That would be my car if it ever comes here though.

-Geoff

The US has a heavy duty on imported trucks, which is why all foreign car makers assemble their pickup trucks here.

However, about 6 years ago, the US signed a Free Trade Agreement that lifted it for all vehicles shipped between Australia and the US.... which is why we had the G8 ST less than 6 months from showrooms until GM killed Pontiac and filed for bankruptcy.

There's currently nothing keeping the Holden Ute from the US.

guionM 10-22-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 99SilverSS (Post 6923811)
I just hope they name it something other than just "SS". This will be Chevrolet's halo car. It needs a name.

Also hope they don't put the SS emblem on the bottom of the rear doors. I've never liked that on the Holden SS's.

The Corvette is Chevrolet's "Halo Car". To a leseer extent, so is the ZL1. Both are cars aimed to get press and attract customers to the showroom floor more than turning sales figures.

The SS is perhaps an "Image Car" because like the Camaro in that it helps set in the public mind what Chevrolet is, and people actually buy them in numbers (and unlike Corvette, it's future is actually depended on good volume of sales).

The Chevrolet SS is aimed at the SRT Charger, and GM will import enough to meet demand. GM is predicting low numbers because they don't expect there to be huge number of takers.

Also, barring a last minute reprieve, (and I agree, it should be changed) Chevrolet seems to be sticking with the name.



Originally Posted by King Moose SS (Post 6923789)
Who woulda thunk? I'm usually very good at guessing when a car will be a success or not. I would of never guessed the spark to a be success due to it being so close to sonic. But I guess GM made reasonable predictions on it's sales expecting only 2,000 a month. That's 24,000 a year which is very achievable.

The trouble with predicting which cars are successful and which aren't is very difficult unless you're familiar with different areas of the country or various demographics. Also, gotta take personal opinions out of the mix. I personally disliked the Beetle when it first came out, but I predicted that VW wouldn't keep them in stock, and they couldn't.

Sonic is EXTREMELY popular with college kids, and also are selling well to people who live in congested areas (ie: Los Angeles) who might have gotten a cheap Hyundai until they looked at a Sonic and saw that it has much better interior materials and modern styling.

GM grossly underestimated the public's acceptance of cars this small (and in all fairness, Ford also did the same thing). But with everyone counting pennies these days and $4 per gallon plus per fuel, this is a fast growing segment.

ImportedRoomate 10-22-2012 11:41 AM

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I don't see that at all looking at the race car and camo shots. I see a smaller jelly bean opening up top and on the bottom, a large trapezoidal opening with the long end at the top.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....-shots-628.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4S3fyACYAATHz2.jpg:large

99SilverSS 10-22-2012 12:00 PM

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Yea the camo'd mule and the Sprint car test car look very much alike. Both have that large trapezoid opening under the grill. I don't see that in the artist renditions.

guionM 10-22-2012 12:06 PM

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Well, no matter. The car will be unveiled within 4 months, and we'll no doubt be seeing pics on the internet before that so we won't have to wait very much longer. :)

graham 10-25-2012 06:16 PM

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Better front view of what appears to be a big lower opening and a smaller upper grill with no break for the Bowtie spear/bar thingy.

Teamwork key during two-day Phoenix test - Oct 24, 2012 - NASCAR.COM

AdioSS 10-26-2012 02:14 AM

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At the Chevrolet Teat Drive during the State Fair of Texas, the line for the convertible Camaro SS's was longest, followed by the Volt & then the Spark. I wish I would have driven a Spark :(

Oh yeah, R.I.P. Big Tex :(

Silverhawk 11-13-2012 10:11 PM

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More pics here......this time a wagon!! I wonder if we are going to get a wagon version of the SS in North America?

I do love my current G8 and can easily see myself getting one of these when the G8 gets long in the tooth......

My only regret with my G8 is that I didn't get the V8. If this new VF/SS gets a variant of the Gen5 LT1 (which is most likely)......I'll most definitely trade in my V6 G8 for one of these!!

Spied: VF Commodore

ImportedRoomate 11-14-2012 07:27 AM

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The Ute would have a better chance. Not sure about the LT1. Rumors are for the LS3 and possibly the LSA.

posaune 11-15-2012 02:02 PM

Re: Chevy SS/Commodore VF Renderings
 

Originally Posted by guionM (Post 6923704)
Plus one other thing...

The Chevy Spark wasn't predicted to sell anywhere near the numbers they're selling, and GM is scrambling to get more to dealers. This has some people at GM rethinking some of the other vehicles they don't think would sell here, and the Ute is one vehicle on the list


What else is on that list? Small, RWD Coupe as an entry level car slotted below Camaro would be killer. Give that car a wagon version and then you'd have a new Chevy Nomad which had a lot of support for production in the past. imho, I think they would both be hits.

formula79 11-15-2012 11:09 PM

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The SS will have a version of Chevy's new grille like the Imala, ZL1, and Traverse. They call it tribar, but I don't see much consistancy.

http://0.tqn.com/d/cars/1/0/l/i/2/13_traverse.jpg

http://www.autowallpaperhd.com/wp-co...ble-2013-2.jpg

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/con..._01_1-0404.jpg


Originally Posted by guionM (Post 6923982)
That's just the angle of the picture. It's a picture that was leaked a month or so after Ed Welburn was down there to approve it. There's probably been some minor changes since then (ie: grill texture, etc) but that's the nose.

Here's an artist's version, and outside of the headlights it's also close.

http://images-2.drive.com.au/2011/12..._729-420x0.jpg



The US has a heavy duty on imported trucks, which is why all foreign car makers assemble their pickup trucks here.

However, about 6 years ago, the US signed a Free Trade Agreement that lifted it for all vehicles shipped between Australia and the US.... which is why we had the G8 ST less than 6 months from showrooms until GM killed Pontiac and filed for bankruptcy.

There's currently nothing keeping the Holden Ute from the US.


Z28x 11-19-2012 10:03 AM

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The grill will end up looking more like the Impala than the Malibu.


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