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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

I was up in the attic a few weeks ago getting Christmas stuff down and I came across a box that had some of the older dealer car catologs in it. I found one that was from 1992, Chevy's full line-up catalog.
I know we've come along way since the low point in 2003 when there was only Cavalier, Malibu, Impala, Monte Carlo & Corvette. The line-up today is still got some big holes in it.

Here was the full line up back in 1992.

Cavalier Coupe
Cavalier Convertible
Cavalier Sedan
Cavalier Wagon
Beretta
Corsica
Camaro
Camaro Convertible
Lumina Sedan
Lumina Coupe
Lumina APV
Caprice
Caprice Wagon
Corvette
Corvette Convertible
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

If you coun't Lumina APV in 1993, you'd have to count Venture in 2003 as well. If you think about it, the lineups are almost comparable:

Here was the full line up back in 1992.

Cavalier Coupe -- Cobalt Coupe
Cavalier Convertible -- Hole in the lineup
Cavalier Sedan --Cobalt Sedan
Cavalier Wagon -- HHR
Beretta -- Cobalt SS?
Corsica -- Malibu
Camaro -- Coming, but when?
Camaro Convertible Coming, but when?
Lumina Sedan - Impala
Lumina Coupe - Monte Carlo
Lumina APV - Uplander
Caprice - Hole in the Lineup
Caprice Wagon - Hole in the Lineup
Corvette - Corvette
Corvette Convertible - Corvette Convertible

Plus we now have:
Malibu Maxx
Aveo Sedan
Aveo Hatch


So there are almost as many vehicles - just now there are subcompacts vs. any rwd full sizers. Of course, if you add Geo in Chevy had even more cars in 1993.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

Originally Posted by Eric77TA
Caprice - Hole in the Lineup
Caprice Wagon - Hole in the Lineup
I think the Trailblazer or EXT would be the replacement for the Caprice Wagon and to a degree the Caprice itself.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

Also back then they had the Geo Line up of cars, which were considered Chevys

Another thing that is missed is the V6 option in the Cavalier, I know we've got the Cobalt SS now which is faster and 100 times better car than the old J-Bodies, but the torquey V6 in that small of a car was really nice. They had awesome take-off, but they fell pretty flat when you hit 3rd gear. And the Z24s had a pretty good following going, which disappeared in '95 when the 4 cylinder only Cavaliers came out, but they too got a following going from a different crowd. I guess the V6 Z24 guys moved on up the line to 4th gen. Z28s. You can count me as one, only I had a Cavalier RS w/3.1 V6.

Their was just more options back then.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
I think the Trailblazer or EXT would be the replacement for the Caprice Wagon and to a degree the Caprice itself.
I would say you are probably correct, there. I was just trying to make a straight car to car comparison, but I definitely think the move to SUVs contributed to the loss of rwd full-sizers, and we know that the extra production required for the then super hot SUVs was the final nail in the coffin for the B-Bodies (plant converted to make Tahoe/Yukon).
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

Chevrolet only needs every single type of car if GM gets rid of Buick, Pontiac, Saturn, and Saab.
Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
Chevrolet only needs every single type of car if GM gets rid of Buick, Pontiac, Saturn, and Saab.
I think GM should get rid of Saab anyway, but I don't think the rest is necessarily true. Chevrolet has traditionally been full line and I think they could stay that way if they are the "value" full line brand with genuine price and feature differentiation between Chevys and the higher line brands.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

Originally Posted by Eric77TA
If you coun't Lumina APV in 1993, you'd have to count Venture in 2003 as well. If you think about it, the lineups are almost comparable:

Here was the full line up back in 1992.

Cavalier Coupe -- Cobalt Coupe
Cavalier Convertible -- Hole in the lineup
Cavalier Sedan --Cobalt Sedan
Cavalier Wagon -- HHR
Beretta -- Cobalt SS?
Corsica -- Malibu
Camaro -- Coming, but when?
Camaro Convertible Coming, but when?
Lumina Sedan - Impala
Lumina Coupe - Monte Carlo
Lumina APV - Uplander
Caprice - Hole in the Lineup
Caprice Wagon - Hole in the Lineup
Corvette - Corvette
Corvette Convertible - Corvette Convertible

Plus we now have:
Malibu Maxx
Aveo Sedan
Aveo Hatch


So there are almost as many vehicles - just now there are subcompacts vs. any rwd full sizers. Of course, if you add Geo in Chevy had even more cars in 1993.
What about the Epica and Optra? Are they Canadian market only cars? We have em here.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

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What about the Epica and Optra? Are they Canadian market only cars? We have em here.
Yep Candian models. In the US they are Suzuki's Verona and Forenza (not sure about the last one).
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
Yep Candian models. In the US they are Suzuki's Verona and Forenza (not sure about the last one).
optra5=suzuki reno.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

Originally Posted by 97z28/m6
optra5=suzuki reno.
I knew it was a Suzuki but couldn't remember which one.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Re: Chevy Really Needs its Full Car Line-Up Back.

Too much redundency. Not to mention, GM has multiple divisions and all this would do is canabilize on what would have been other GM brand sales.
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