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Eric77TA 06-04-2013 05:21 PM

Chevrolet SS Priced from $44,470
 
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2014 Chevrolet SS priced from $44,470* [w/poll] - Autoblog

One single fully loaded trim (but I think we already knew that).

Z28Wilson 06-04-2013 09:40 PM

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Good Lord. :eek:

92RS shearn 06-05-2013 11:46 AM

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Yawn, no thank you.

LeadSled1 06-05-2013 01:53 PM

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Mark Reuss, GM's president in North America, had our attention when he referred to the car as a "four-door Corvette."
And unlike the Corvette, it is not available in a manual transmission. The poll numbers don't look very good.

Will the 2014 Chevrolet SS be worth buying for $44,470?

Definitely 3076 (19.6%)
No Way 9957 (63.4%)
I don't care 2670 (17.0%)

Silverhawk 06-05-2013 03:19 PM

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....and now I'm beginning to understand why its not available in Canada.

44,470 in the US would mean the car would be over 60K here in Canada, and no-one will pay that much for a car when clearly you could have a BMW, Audi, or MB with the same performance for that price........

I suspect the car has fallen into the clutches of the high exchange rate of the Aussie dollar. Move production into the US and the car should be much, much cheaper....and hopefully available in Canada then!!

*Edit*.......When this thing tanks in the U.S. over the next year due to being overpriced and no manual........I'll gladly take one here in Canada at a significant discount!!!!

BigBlueCruiser 06-05-2013 03:25 PM

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Obviously no one at GM is learning from the other 2 previous failures of $40K+ V8 Aussie machines

Pontiac GTO
Pontiac G8

So let's just the Chevy SS to the list of $8K rebate cars

slt 06-05-2013 04:39 PM

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300 SRT8 starts at over $49K Seems in the ballpark to me

King Moose SS 06-05-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser (Post 6943378)
Obviously no one at GM is learning from the other 2 previous failures of $40K+ V8 Aussie machines

Pontiac GTO
Pontiac G8

So let's just the Chevy SS to the list of $8K rebate cars

GTO was not even close to $40k+ and nor was it failure money wise for GM.

99SilverSS 06-05-2013 07:15 PM

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I'm not at all surprised. Chevy always said this car would be premium priced so sales should reflect that. And now with the much more capable and attractive Impala in the same showroom this car is going to be rare.

LT4Monsta 06-05-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 99SilverSS (Post 6943389)
I'm not at all surprised. Chevy always said this car would be premium priced so sales should reflect that. And now with the much more capable and attractive Impala in the same showroom this car is going to be rare.

Yeah, it has a 44K sticker with 27K looks.

guionM 06-06-2013 06:06 PM

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The SS is by no shape form or fashion going to be a money loser for GM.

1. The car is nothing more than a LHD Commodore SS that is already in production.

2. The Chevrolet SS is only made when someone places an order. It's not on a production line on it's own and there's not even any from GM making any sales projections. If you want one, you simply go to your Chevy dealer and order it and THEN they'll make it. It's not going to be sitting on any dealer lots unless the dealer ordered it.

3. At $44K, it's certainly going to be profitable on a per-car basis (which is how GM is selling it.

To those of you who think it's overpriced, consider that a Charger SRT8 STARTS at $47,400!

An SRT8 300 costs only a shade below $50K

Suddenly, the SS' $3000 cheaper price tag under the Charger doesn't seem all that outrageous.

LT4Monsta 06-06-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by guionM (Post 6943461)
The SS is by no shape form or fashion going to be a money loser for GM.

1. The car is nothing more than a LHD Commodore SS that is already in production.

2. The Chevrolet SS is only made when someone places an order. It's not on a production line on it's own and there's not even any from GM making any sales projections. If you want one, you simply go to your Chevy dealer and order it and THEN they'll make it. It's not going to be sitting on any dealer lots unless the dealer ordered it.

3. At $44K, it's certainly going to be profitable on a per-car basis (which is how GM is selling it.

To those of you who think it's overpriced, consider that a Charger SRT8 STARTS at $47,400!

An SRT8 300 costs only a shade below $50K

Suddenly, the SS' $3000 cheaper price tag under the Charger doesn't seem all that outrageous.

The Chevrolet SS looks has the looks of the Malibu. Dodges SRT series is their elite brand. the Charger and 300 are both already well selling cars. The SS is just another import with a price markup. Just like the GTO when it came out going for close to 40K in ye old economy. It was expensive and sold poorly plus it looked bland which didn't help. That was the 3rd worse Idea GM ever had along with getting rid of the Camaro and Firebird in the first place.

People shopping for a GM car with 40K and above to spend on a Sedan aren't thinking Chevrolet, they are thinking Cadillac. Besides what's with GM trying to make new intermediate luxury sedan market for Chevrolet. They already have a brand just for that it's called Buick. Why can't that go build a new T-type or put an LSA or LS3 under the hood of a Buick then you'd have a car worth the asking price.

30thZ286speed 06-10-2013 11:06 PM

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Its not that much more than a Pontiac GXP. The Pontiac G8 GXP topped out at $41,590 msrp and that was 5 model years ago. I believe GM only produced around 1,800 GXPs before Pontiac's throat was cut. The SS is only going to be built to order so these things are going to be pretty exclusive, kind of like CTS-V wagons.

Here is my problem with the SS. I always thought the G8 GXP was too high $$ for the narrow performance margin over the G8 GT, and same goes for the SS, its the same GXP performance 5 years later. The SS at that price should have gotten a 6-speed manual option and the LT1 or LSA putting out around 450 hp. The SS with 415 hp is coming up short horsepower wise compared to its main competition.

Z28x 06-14-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by guionM (Post 6943461)
The SS is by no shape form or fashion going to be a money loser for GM.

1. The car is nothing more than a LHD Commodore SS that is already in production.

2. The Chevrolet SS is only made when someone places an order. It's not on a production line on it's own and there's not even any from GM making any sales projections. If you want one, you simply go to your Chevy dealer and order it and THEN they'll make it. It's not going to be sitting on any dealer lots unless the dealer ordered it.

3. At $44K, it's certainly going to be profitable on a per-car basis (which is how GM is selling it.

To those of you who think it's overpriced, consider that a Charger SRT8 STARTS at $47,400!

An SRT8 300 costs only a shade below $50K

Suddenly, the SS' $3000 cheaper price tag under the Charger doesn't seem all that outrageous.

I thought it was expensive until you put it like that.

It would be nice if the Camaro has a sedan brother that was priced and optioned similarly.

I was going to say that I'd rather have a 2014 CTS Vsport with manual, but those cost $59k :eek:

Kris93/95Z28 06-14-2013 09:43 PM

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I have a feeling this will be the next GTO/GXP. Americans will sh!t bricks on the price/looks/whatever and then complain when they missed the boat years later.

guionM 06-17-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LT4Monsta (Post 6943468)
The Chevrolet SS looks has the looks of the Malibu. Dodges SRT series is their elite brand. the Charger and 300 are both already well selling cars. The SS is just another import with a price markup. Just like the GTO when it came out going for close to 40K in ye old economy. It was expensive and sold poorly plus it looked bland which didn't help. That was the 3rd worse Idea GM ever had along with getting rid of the Camaro and Firebird in the first place.

People shopping for a GM car with 40K and above to spend on a Sedan aren't thinking Chevrolet, they are thinking Cadillac. Besides what's with GM trying to make new intermediate luxury sedan market for Chevrolet. They already have a brand just for that it's called Buick. Why can't that go build a new T-type or put an LSA or LS3 under the hood of a Buick then you'd have a car worth the asking price.

LT4, you are way off in your assumptions and operating off of false pretenses. Here's the deal.

1. The US dollar is horribly low. Has been dropping against all world currencies since 2001 (remember when Canadian currency was briefly well above the US dollar?). Meanwhile, the Aussie dollar has become extremely strong. That high Aussie dollar and low US dollar makes their products expensive to us while ours seems cheap to them. So the SS is already expensive to us.

2. The volumes sold in Australia's car market are extremely small compared to the US, so cars made there are already more expensive there than here. That GTO that cost $32,000 here cost the same as $45,000 US there as the Monaro, and up to $55,000.

3. Saying the Charger and 300 are already great selling cars makes no point in this whatsoever. If you want to use those 2 cars then I can bring up the fact that the Holden Commodore is a high production car (roughly as many as Charger and 300 when you include exports and knockdown kits to China). So the point of the Charger and 300 sales is moot.

The direct competitor to the Chevrolet SS is the Charger SRT8. It's a limited performance edition of a volume sedan made for those who want a specila high performance sedan with all the bells and whistles. Instead of spending the billions on what would be a losing proposition, GM is pulling a model it already makes and importing it here. Due to the fact that even the small amount being briught here is pretty large by Aussie standards, there is a price drop (and thinner margin) due to the fact that there will be more than enough sold here to balence out.

There is NO price markup that is any worse than anything else on the market. You want to see a price markup, you should dig into a Tahoe (let alone a Denali or Escalade). :)

BTW: GM had GOOD reason for killing Camaro and Firebird. I did an article on it some years ago. Tells you all about it:

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...vrolet_camaro/

Hope it helps. :)

Also....

GTO wasn't a "flop". GM actually made decent money on it, and....well... go look up GTO sales and compare it to the Mustang Cobra's those same years, then get back to us. ;)

Slappy3243 06-18-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by guionM (Post 6944384)
LT4, you are way off in your assumptions and operating off of false pretenses. Here's the deal.

That GTO that cost $32,000 here cost the same as $45,000 US there as the Monaro, and up to $55,000.

I am confused. Maybe I have it backwards, but wouldn't that make the US dollar strong? It is less dollars buying more compared to Australia currency.

92RS shearn 06-18-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappy3243 (Post 6944440)
I am confused. Maybe I have it backwards, but wouldn't that make the US dollar strong? It is less dollars buying more compared to Australia currency.

I believe what he was saying is that the volume of GTO's (Monaro's) was so high here compared to Australia that they could afford to sell them at a lower price and still make a profit. Plus back then the Australian dollar was not nearly as strong compared to the US dollar as it is today.

King Moose SS 06-19-2013 08:40 PM

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The price, while a big issue, isn't the only issue with the car. The first issue at hand is the car has no name.

Second issue is if they were going to use "SS", GM should of made god damn sure it was the best of best and deserved the badge. The fact of the matter is the SS is one of the blandest cars Chevrolet will produce, about the same as the Malibu. I'm not saying it's needs to be absolutely striking like the Camaro, or beautiful like the Corvette. But it should at least be as good looking as the brand new Impala, which it isn't.

The lastly, if this car is made to order and is suppose to make the margins better for the Australia version, then why the hell is the manual transmission dropped from the Australia version? I can't understand not making it an option in the U.S. They could of stole some of the market from the SRT8 with just with that option alone!

AnthonyHSV 06-20-2013 01:20 AM

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$AUD is at a 3 year low. Now 92c to the USD

Silverado27 06-20-2013 08:58 AM

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God, had a serious brain-fart and did not read this clearly at first. I thought the article headline was for a CAMARO SS from 44,470 only available in an Automatic...Wow, I need to pay more attention, almost had a heart attack, lol.

99SilverSS 06-23-2013 09:08 PM

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For $44,470 it should have a manual trans option.

ImportedRoomate 08-01-2013 02:43 PM

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So there's a rumor that the manual will be available for 2015. Fingers crossed...

Z28x 08-02-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportedRoomate (Post 6947532)
So there's a rumor that the manual will be available for 2015. Fingers crossed...

Any word on using the new LT1? LT1 paired with the 7 speed manual would be a great combo for 2015.

ImportedRoomate 08-02-2013 07:59 AM

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There's also rumors about moving to Alpha. If that happens I can't see GM putting that drivetrain in the VF. Or on the other hand, the delay could mean a different drivetrain. That would be awesome, and worth the wait. They did it with the GTO (LS1 to LS2).

If it does go to Alpha, might as well wait on that. I'm just wondering what would happen to the Caprice.

Z28x 08-02-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportedRoomate (Post 6947603)
There's also rumors about moving to Alpha. If that happens I can't see GM putting that drivetrain in the VF. Or on the other hand, the delay could mean a different drivetrain. That would be awesome, and worth the wait. They did it with the GTO (LS1 to LS2).

If it does go to Alpha, might as well wait on that. I'm just wondering what would happen to the Caprice.

Isn't this car (Commodore) too new for Alpha? I could see the 2017 model going that way.

ImportedRoomate 08-05-2013 12:27 PM

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Yes, I meant going to Alpha in about 3 years which would be a pretty short time for the effort to implement the LT1.

Bob Cosby 08-19-2013 12:00 PM

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Might be a great car for the price, but the looks.....blah. Charger R/T or SRT8 is WAY better, IMHO.


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