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Old 07-29-2002, 05:56 PM
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A note from Scott:

Good afternoon, all --

I announce this with very, very mixed emotions............

I've had many, many requests over the past year from fellow enthusiasts
asking to purchase the last Camaro off the line at Ste. Therese. The last
car off the line will be a bright rally red Z28 convertible that will go
into the Chevy Historic Collection for the public to enjoy for generations
to come. The "next to last" car off the line is a matching Trans Am
Convertible....also going into the Pontiac Historic Collection.......

With that said......we are offering the public the chance to bid on the
"Last Saleable Camaro in the United States" -- with all proceeds going to a
very worthy cause -- "Students Against Violence Everywhere."


This car will be sold at Kruse Auction in Auburn, IN on Sun. Sept. 1st, 2002......anyone wanna' go with me? I need to be there to see it all end......

This is a HUGE pic (sorry) http://www.indycamaro.com/images/lastcamaro.jpg
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A sad, sad day to say the least.

Pray we look at the ashes from which the Phoenix will rise...

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It's the last one....for a while. At least it BETTER be just for a while!!!!

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(Hey, I'm a college boy I can't afford gobs of bolt-ons!)

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The F-body will NEVER die.
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Kind of sounds like an obituary. Last camaros and firebirds available to the public? going into historic collections?

Why does that sound like the end of the line?
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If ever there was a reason to cry, September 11th, Dale Earnhardt's death and when the last Camaro rolls off the line.

Its more than just a car. Its more than just a name. Its more than steel, glass, and rubber, its the collection of all the joy and love the owners and enthusiasts have ever bestowed upon the single subject, the car, the vehicle, the feeling. CAMARO

you'll never be forgotten.....

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So is assembly over with yet then? When is/was the last day?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 99SilverSS:

Its more than just a car. Its more than just a name. Its more than steel, glass, and rubber, its the collection of all the joy and love the owners and enthusiasts have ever bestowed upon the single subject, the car, the vehicle, the feeling. CAMARO

you'll never be forgotten.....
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Yep. Ever since I was a kid I've loved Camaros. You could always count on a beautiful new Camaro in your Chevy showrooms each year. The auto industry just won't be the same to me....

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This may not make any sense to you guys, but for me and the Z28(s) ive own(ed) it makes all the sense in the world...

The the *Camaro*-You brought me happiness in awful times, and joy in even worse, for that i owe you my life my friend.

-You will always live on in my heart

~Mike



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Z28
"she's almost awake...Ohh **** run its almost the summer of 2003"

Debuting officialy July 2003!!
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Old 08-01-2002, 07:51 AM
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Is there a pic for the last firebird?




Figuers. The world will have new VW beelte's but no Camaro's of Firebird's...how lame.
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Old 08-03-2002, 07:19 PM
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I am at a loss. How could they sink millions into horrible things like the azztek, 'that nobody wants', and other gutless front wheel drive cars. And not give a rats *** about the Camaro or Trans/Am. Ford is laughing all the way to the bank. Why GM?

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Old 08-03-2002, 07:53 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BIGfooMAN:
Figuers. The world will have new VW beelte's but no Camaro's of Firebird's...how lame.</font>
Surely you don't want an empty farce like the new Beetle applied to the Camaro...

Basic super-economy automobile -&gt; Expensive nostalgia (Beetle)
Powerful touring coupe -&gt; Family sedan ? (Camaro)
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Old 08-03-2002, 07:55 PM
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If they try to bring back the Camaro after its hiatus as something other than its original formula (affordable, powerful sports coupe), it's no use. It's like with VW - the Golf rightfully got passed the torch; seen the commercial?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by THE Z-MAN:
I am at a loss. How could they sink millions into horrible things like the azztek, 'that nobody wants', and other gutless front wheel drive cars.</font>
The Asstek sells almost as many units as does the Camaro, but because of its shared platform with the minivans, is more profitable. It's still a failure, but at least GM tried something different, and they aren't losing as much money as they are on the f-bodies.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cmc:
If they try to bring back the Camaro after its hiatus as something other than its original formula (affordable, powerful sports coupe), it's no use. It's like with VW - the Golf rightfully got passed the torch; seen the commercial?</font>
I would disagree with that statement. The Golf, especially the GTI, is not true to its roots. It's become a bloated, soft, slow shadow of its original self. But the point is, VW positioned it where the market is *now*, not where it was 20 years ago. Chevy needs to do the same with the 5th gen Camaro. If that means OHC and IRS, well, then progress is a good thing. We already know from the 4th gen sales that adhering to 30-year-old paradigms does not equate to success in the marketplace.

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Old 08-03-2002, 09:31 PM
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Whether or not it's "true to its roots" (I don't think it's that far, personally...), it evolved directly into what it is now. The Beetle just came back to appeal to people who didn't actually own a Beetle before, but thought they were cute. It's just too expensive and luxurious (and too 'complicated' as opposed to the original Beetle design) to be anything other than a nostalgia styling appeal.

In my opinion.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by R377:
Chevy needs to do the same with the 5th gen Camaro. If that means OHC and IRS, well, then progress is a good thing. We already know from the 4th gen sales that adhering to 30-year-old paradigms does not equate to success in the marketplace.

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I couldn't agree more. In fact Camaro may actually need a hiatus for awhile to smoothly formulate and present a new paradigm for the car.

Maybe too much modernization needs to take place between the 4th gen and 5th gen to let one replace the other seemlessly with no time gap.

As far as OHC engines...I think I got that out of my system when I saw how well the genIII smallblock performs and packages.

I would imagine future genIII's and gen IVs will be equally impressive.

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