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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Another Toyota Tundra Recall, This Time Driveshafts.

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Toyota Motor Corp. is recalling 15,600 of its new Tundra pickup trucks to fix a rear driveshaft that could separate, causing the wheels to stop turning.

The recall covers four-wheel-drive versions of the 2007 Tundra, Toyota's Torrance, California-based U.S. sales unit said Friday in an e-mailed statement.

There has been one occurrence of the problem, with no accidents or injuries, the company said.

"The rear propeller shaft in some of the vehicles may not have been sufficiently heat-treated by the supplier," said Bill Kwong, a Toyota spokesman. "If it separates, it would be like the vehicle went into neutral, with a lot of noise."

The recall follows an earlier announcement by Toyota that it would replace V-8 engines in 20 of the 2007 trucks because of defective camshafts.

The large pickup, which went on sale in February, also failed to win top safety scores for all model types in National Highway Traffic Safety Administration tests.

The revised Tundra is Toyota's challenge to the dominance of General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC in U.S. sales of large pickups.

Toyota is second, behind GM, in total U.S. and worldwide sales of cars and trucks.

Notification of owners starts late this month. Toyota said.

They just keep on coming.........Toyota quality
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Just when you thought it couldn't get ANY worse for this truck. Wow. They really dropped the ball on this one... I guess that's what you get for rushing into a market that you have zero experience in. They should have done a little bit better homework.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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I smell another T100 fiasco on the way. Tundra is becoming a tainted name.

Could it be, Toyota's reached its limit, on growing market share? Its growing quality problems sure seem to indicate this.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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It's obvious Toyota quality is not at all what it once was. Not just with the Tundra but some of their other models, too.

The question, now, is - will they take 15-20 years to fix those problems like GM did, or will they recover more quickly before too many people in the general public start to notice and their hard earned reputation is permanently damaged?
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Whats been wrong with GM trucks in 15-20 years??
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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Whats been wrong with GM trucks in 15-20 years??
I didn't say trucks. I said GM.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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I was really just picking at your blanket statement.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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So what, thats like 10% of the Tundras sold this recall effects?
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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If they've sold 150,000 of the 4WD model this year.
Ops, missed that. Wow, that makes it even worse. So this would probably be equal in percentage of vehicles cover as some of the GM/Ford/Chrysler recalls?
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 02:19 AM
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Like people who know anyhting about a car besides how to drive know how limited this really is, they'll see recall and then stay away, even if it doesn't concern that model.

Also, notice how the article states Toyota blames the issue on a supplier...
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 02:42 AM
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Like people who know anything about a car besides how to drive know how limited this really is, they'll see recall and then stay away, even if it doesn't concern that model.

Also, notice how the article states Toyota blames the issue on a supplier...
I just find it interest that, even though the recall is a relative low number, it represents the same percentage of so called problems that are alleged recalls in domestics. Its just the Toyota hasn't built million of these trucks. If they had, we would be see a recall in the millions. Then it would be all over the news....maybe.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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You should be unbiased. Toyota didn't build this. A supplier did. Who is this supplier? They could be American.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by number77
You should be unbiased. Toyota didn't build this. A supplier did. Who is this supplier? They could be American.
I'm not a Toyota basher. I admire how the company has challenged others to improve the overall quality their products.

BUT, to lay the blame on the suppliers is really a swipe at the Toyota 'System' because in order to be a Toyota supplier, that company must pass stringent Toyota company standards/methodologies.

Let me ask you this, if GM were in the news for a recall, does John Doe out there blame the supplier or GM? I'd say that GM would get the negative publicity. Ditto Toyota... so you can't really split hairs.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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The supplier shouldn't get any of the blame. Toyota designed the part, they spec-ed out the part, they selected the supplier, they should have tested the part, and quality control should have cought any problems with the part. It is easy to see where the blame lies.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by number77
You should be unbiased. Toyota didn't build this. A supplier did. Who is this supplier? They could be American.
Ehhh, a manufacturer is responsible for the suppliers they use. We outsource products and do strict testing on them before putting them on. It may have been the supplier who made it, but it was TOYOTA that decided to use it; be it saving pennies or whatever.

Put it this way, do you blame all the dash parts suppliers for the ****ty dashes of the 80s/90s GM vehicles? Or do you blame the GM Bean Counters for deciding to cheap out and use those suppliers.



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