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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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Red face 2004 Mustang Boss Engine ?

Well, unless I'm reading too much into this, I'd say this is the 1st hint of the next performance Mustang, the 2004 Boss:

"...Acknowledging its US heritage and manufacture - it's a new three-valve unit that hasn't been released in the US yet - the uniquely-specified Australian version is built on the Essex low volume production line. With its fitment to the Falcon, this is the first use of this Ford V8 engine in a passenger car anywhere in the world. It will see the light of day in the US in 2003..."

That spy picture of the next Mustang mule sure did have a really raised hood.

The whole article:
http://www.autospeed.com.au/A_1523/P_4/article.html
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:18 PM
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BTW, if anyone's interested, the Mach1 will have 335 horsepower (325 w/automatic) and 355ft/lbs of torque.

By comparason, F body LS1s have 320hp (max F-body) 335ft/lbs of torque.

In short, boys & girls, the new Mach1 is more than likely FASTER than than our quickest factory Z28, Trans Am, Formula, SS, & WS6 LS1 F-bodies.

Just as predicted.
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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Not quicker necessarily, just rated higher. Also, I believe if a person got every slp option, the hp rating was 345...........so not really.
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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...and come on, everyone and their mom knows the ls1 fbodies were way underrated; putting out more like 345-355. Not saying the Mach 1 won't be fast, but I doubt it'll out gun an ls1. I guess we'll see in 2003

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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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It's the TORQUE we need to look at!

Torque=Acceleration
Horsepower (and aerodynamics)=speed

Last December there was a warning posted here about the new S/C Cobra being as fast as an LS1 Corvette that wasn't heeded. Now I'm posting a warning about Mach1s that will at least run the quarter quicker than an the top drawer factory LS1 F-body, let alone base Z28s.

The numbers add up. The old Cobra ran with only a tick ( roughly <.2 seconds or so) behind an SLP SS. Cobras also lost alot of acceleration with it's jerryrigged IRS. The new Mach1 has a solid rear axle, a higher axle ratio, 6 speeds (opposed to 5 more widely spaced ones on the old Cobra) and more TORQUE than the old Cobra engine did.

Just remember, I said it here 1st. Let the naysaying begin.
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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So, will the BOSS Mustang have 5.0 liters or 5.4?

And how many HP is 260kw?
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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We'll see. So other than the scoop, what other hp mods does it have?
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by guionM:
It's the TORQUE we need to look at!

Torque=Acceleration
Horsepower (and aerodynamics)=speed

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Famous saying, big TQ wins races but HP sells cars

Old Sep 11, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL:
We'll see. So other than the scoop, what other hp mods does it have?</font>

Uh... a 32V DOHC V8...


Btw, it also has 3.55 gears and upgraded brakes and suspension.

They shoulda put that motor in the Bullitt

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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 05:29 PM
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One thing seems clear, it doesn't look like Ford will be resting on it's laurels with the Mustang...F-body or no F-body to compete with.

Good for them, I say!

It looks like Ford and others will have laid the gauntlet for Camaro.

Let's hope we're up for the challenge....NO EXCUSES!!!!
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gab:
Famous saying, big TQ wins races but HP sells cars

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Very very true. Horsepower is more glamourous, but rarely used. Meanwhile Torque is normally forgotten yet without it, you won't go anywhere very quickly.
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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where did u here 335 hp in the mach? i herd it was 300 give or take a few hp.
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Sounds very good, but I thought there were a couple of test runs done with Mach I about 2 months ago, and the results were low 13's for manual and a really high 13 for auto, something around 13.9.

I would think that Ford would tweak the cars before production, but who knows, we will see the final results once they hit the street.

There was Mach I that, with slicks, got into 12.9. Didn't MM&FF get SS to run 12.9x straight from the factory? So there

Regarding GuionM's warning - I think those Mustangs will run on par with LS1's, but not faster. I suspect that automatics will be slower than LS1 autos, but we'll see.

Two thumbs up to Ford.
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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The problem is, Ford's automatics are junk. They have been for as long as I can remember. So I'm not surprised that a stick Mach 1 could be almost a full second faster than an auto. That said, if the Mach 1 is a "true" 335 HP I don't see it being faster than an '01 or '02 LS1 F-body, which routinely makes 360+ HP at the crank. Only time will tell I guess, and like others have said kudos to Ford for releasing these kinds of things.

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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Sorry for changing the subject..but while were talking about mustangs, has anyone else noticed that the new au Falcon looks like the front of what could be a new mustang with the rear of a Holden attatched to it?



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