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Old 10-25-2003, 12:41 PM
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youre all wrong go check the production listings on thirdgen.org
82-84 z28 was the top model
85-87 the iroc was an upgrade from the z28 model
88-90 the z28 dissapeared leaving the iroc as the top model
91-92 iroc dissapeared and z28 was the top model

as an added note from 85-87 you could not order a z28 with the 5.7 it only came in a 5.0. There was also a 5.0 iroc model during those years that had the handling upgrades many people have listed. If you have any more questions just look through the tech data on thirdgen.org because it has what models were produced with what engines during every year. hope this clears everything up
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Actually the 1st year for the 350 was 1987.

The difference? The IROC-Z was the top end model as to where the RS was the base model. 1st year for the RS was 1988 and you could only buy them in 3 states, in 1989 they completely took the place of the base model camaro. Look on google for the ads for the RS, it was suppossed to be a stripped down cheaper version of the Z28 with a v8 option for a way more afordable price.


As far as an RS "not being worth anything" I have 3 digits for you. B4C.


"Then the B4C police package was added, and then it was equipped with the Corvette L98 5.7 aluminum head motor, fitted with siamesed intake runners and tubular headers. This brought the horsepower rating up to 270."

Id say that a 270hp RS has your precious IROC-Z covered.

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Maybe this is why Mustang has been kicking Camaro *** - less options and confusion.
 
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Originally posted by Z28James
Actually the 1st year for the 350 was 1987.
my bad looked it over again and youre right...

And pro the reason the mustang did so much better is because ford did a better job of delivering what the customers wanted. Stronger aftermarket for the crazy enthusiast and something that your non enthusiast could hop right into and be happy with.
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I think its comonly over looked that the 5.0s were only faster in a straight line. And not all that much faster. With the 3rd gen I think GM concentrated alot more on handling. You can drive the wheels of these cars around corners. Especially the IROCs and WS6 cars.
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Originally posted by DarthIROC
With the 3rd gen I think GM concentrated alot more on handling. You can drive the wheels of these cars around corners. Especially the IROCs and WS6 cars.
Thats what happens when you can't get your car to pass emissions....it's almost embarrassing because when the average person thinks camaro they think performance. People always ask me what I had in my car before I put the 350 in, when I tell them I had a V8 in it before they wonder why I went to all the trouble to switch engines. They don't realize their 170HP 2400lb 4 banger could probably hang with my ol 190HP 305 V8.

Everybody who drives my car comments on how well it handles, they just don't like the fact my car is so low.
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Old 10-25-2003, 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by DarthIROC
I think its comonly over looked that the 5.0s were only faster in a straight line. And not all that much faster. With the 3rd gen I think GM concentrated alot more on handling. You can drive the wheels of these cars around corners. Especially the IROCs and WS6 cars.
I think thats true about cornering, lots of people ive talked to say that a camaro handles way better than their mustang. heck even the 2003 cobra handles like a covered wagon.

I have a LG4 with just headers, exaust and a holley 600 and i can easily put 3-4 cars on a 5.0 mustang. I even did it the other day with my carb giving me problems.
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Old 10-25-2003, 05:47 PM
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OK.. YES.. THE IROC IS A ****IN' PACKAGE.. IT IS A PACKAGE TO THE Z-28..
THE IROC IS THE CHAMPION OF CAMARO'S.. END OF STORY.
RS'S SUCK.. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, WHERE MY FRIENDS OLDS-MO-**** KICKED ONE'S ***..
IROC'S WERE FASTER THAN *ANY* Z-28..
 
Old 10-25-2003, 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by 85_LG4
IROC'S WERE FASTER THAN *ANY* Z-28..
Same motor as mine. Same tranny as mine. Same rear end as mine. Besides looks, anything else IDENTICAL to my car?

Curious to how it is faster....
 
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Originally posted by Pro
Same motor as mine. Same tranny as mine. Same rear end as mine. Besides looks, anything else IDENTICAL to my car?

Curious to how it is faster....
actually your rear end is different
you got the weak 10 bolt
cant remember which years but...irocs had 9 bolt borg warner rear ends
but, alll the same, 91-92 z28's just as fast as any iroc
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Originally posted by unvc92camarors
actually your rear end is different
you got the weak 10 bolt
cant remember which years but...irocs had 9 bolt borg warner rear ends
but, alll the same, 91-92 z28's just as fast as any iroc
#1- The 10-bolt isn't that weak (Heck they use it in LS1 cars)

#2- I'm 99.9% sure not ALL IROCs came with 9-bolts. I know of a couple Trans Ams (not WS6's) that have 9-bolts. Either way a rear doesn't make a car faster (other than ratios which aren't all that different stock for stock).

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Originally posted by Rippin92RS
#1- The 10-bolt isn't that weak (Heck they use it in LS1 cars)

#2- I'm 99.9% sure not ALL IROCs came with 9-bolts. I know of a couple Trans Ams (not WS6's) that have 9-bolts. Either way a rear doesn't make a car faster (other than ratios which aren't all that different stock for stock).

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yea, well 10 bolts are known for their breakage in any 4th gen z28, especially in manuals- just what i've heard
and when you compare that to a 9 bolt, the 9 bolt is far better
yea, i know some t/a's had the 9 bolt too, but i'm not too good on firebird history
and also, it's been awhile since i've checked thirdgen.org for the info
and yea, rear end makes no difference in speed, just clarifying some info
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Old 10-25-2003, 11:20 PM
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What is defined as a weak rear end? A friend of mine was in the car with me a few weeks ago when I decided to floor it from a stand-still. Spun like h*ll for about 8 feet and when I hit the white line the tires suddenly gripped and literally lifted the front end off the ground, tires and all. If my engine has enough power to do that, don't you think that I would have ripped my stock 10 bolt rear end out by 105K miles?
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Oh and by the way the only good thing I can say about the 3.1 is that it gets good gas mileage and it is hard to kill.

Had a friend that tried.(d***head)
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Are you sure you got the front tires off the ground? A mildly modified L98 doing a wheelie....I don't know.

A 10-bolt will hold up fine to stock/mild motors with an automatic. Manuals tend to put a lot more "shock" on the rear and that's what blows them.

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