i think i am going to put a CC304 in a 305... with gasket matched and pocket ported heads, and a ported base and aftermarket runners... anyone else used this cam?

 

If I were you, I'd save the money for the stroker project. Or a nice 350 4-bolt main block.

 

i totally agree... and i had started a 383 buildup... but i am a lowly poor college student who has not the money at this time to do a build like that even staying on the cheap side of it all... so i am just gonna mess with my lowly 305 for a while until i graduate and can afford to go ***** to the wall on the 383...

 

What are the specs on it?

 

the specs on the CC304 are 210/220 .500 .510 @.500 114 LSA

 

I wouldn't mind hearing some thoughts on this cam as well. Sounds like it could a fun little cam to run in the car with some tuning and what not...would work great with a set of 1.5 roller rockers I bet, maybe even 1.6's. What do you guys think, lets get some thoughts on this cam.

 

Thats with 1.5 rockers, right? It sounds like a winner if its tuned right and paired with some good heads. I want to run the ZZ4 cam with my tbi which is like .474/.510 208 224 112 lsa, so you get a little more intake with the CC304 and the higher lsa would make it a little more streetable. It'd be nice to hear from someone running a good cam in a 305 tpi though.

 

Thats the first time I've heard someone mention the CC304

Usually it's the 305 or 306 but for a 305 TPI, the 304 would be nice. You didn't mention new valvesprings but plan on that for sure. I'm not big into specs but hopefully Comp Cams makes a spring in the stock diameter that can support that kind of lift easily.

You guys with the "don't waste your money, do a 350, wait do 383, wait, do a big block" bit hehe Not everyone wants that. Tons of people have fun with a 305 and if you spend time with it, you'll be rewarded. Tuning is a big factor like someone mentioned!

Goodluck

coughsprayitcough

 

i am going to add new springs to the combo... i found a cheap set of stock heads that i am going to home gasket match and port out a little... it should be fun... i am going with the Comp Pro Mag 1.6 rockers and new springs... but i am not sure what yet... the Comp 981 springs are the right diamater but not enough for the lift of the 304 and the 1.6s... i found a machine shop here in nashville that will cut for bigger springs which is what i am probably going to do so i can put the right springs in... but i am gonna call COMP first and see what they say!!


oh yeah and AutoRoc... don't worry... the spray is in the works for it as well... if figure if i blow it up... i will just start early on the 383 project!!!

 

Chris and I had a talk about this project the other day and I was the one that suggested the CC304. I am running the cam in my LT1 with pocket ported/gasket matched heads and making 322 to the wheels. Its a small cam for an LT1, but its very streetable.

For a 305 TPI, I think the 210 duration will help keep it streetable (since any given cam always behaves bigger in a smaller engine) and the 10 degree split should help get the exhaust gasses out.

Chris just has no chance at realistically scrounging up the cash for a 350 or 383 while going to school full time. If he did, I'd be the first one to say don't waste your time on a 305 when for the same money you can get 45 more cubes. Besides, the engine only has 106K miles on it so the bottom end should still be in good enough shape to handle the power we will be putting to it.

But, with full exhaust and maybe an s10 converter, I think this combo with 1.6 rockers (which makes the lift .533/.544) should put down 240+ to the wheels and might break off a 13.9X or two on street tires.

This is going to be a budget buildup and for the money invested should return a very nice performance gain.

CC304 specs are really very similar to the LPE 211/219 that is so popular with TPI people, except that the 304 has more lift.

 

thanks chris for the background info... yeah me and chris were looking at my options the other day and he came up with the idea...

hopefully i will be telling you guys of the good times sometime soon!!

 

Chris,

Are you planing on taking anything out of the ports themselves, or are you just going to stick to pocket porting and gasket matching? I was wondering because this has really got my attention and I'm looking forward to seeing what you going to do with the heads. I'm looking for a set of 305 heads now to do a close set up to yours excpet I may go in to the ports and clean them out alittle. Let us know what happens.

Also what kinda of tuning do you guys think this cam will take. I know it will take alittle, but how much is alittle? What do the tuning experts think?

 

well... i haven't decided exactly on what work the head will have done to them porting wise... as for the tuning... i got a buddy who has a ton of chip burning stuff so he is gonna help me with that... i imagine it will take quite a bit to get it right... i am also either going to run 22lb or 24 lb injectors... i just don't think the 19s will cut it

 

Putting this one back on the top, and was looking for some more thoughts on this cam as well. I think that I'm going to go ahead a give this cam a try, I'm currently looking for a set of 305 heads to P&P. I think also the heads will have to be machined for bigger springs, because I dobut anyone makes a spring big enough for stock 305 spring seats to handle that much lift.

Chris are you planing on doing any intake up grades to the runners or the base? I'm looking at getting bigger runners and then porting the base and upper. Plus are you going to run 1.6 rockers or just going to stick with 1.5's? I'm thinking that for right now I'm just going to stick to 1.5's and then maybe up grade to 1.6's, because I'm not sure how well the car will react to the 1.6's and the increased lift. Do you or anyone else for that matter have any thoughts on that?

Anyone that has any thoughts on this chime on in.

 

That is a lot of lift. You will need heads that deliver good flow at the .500 mark. I simply don't know if there will be any advantage to having lift above the .45x - .46x range on a 305. Going for all that extra lift will also require expensive machine work and springs to allow for it.

Following the instructions linked at the end of my sig will give you a set of ported, polished, bowl-blended and gasket matched 305 heads that will easily support 450 to 500 hp. They wil handle lift in the .46x region max, but will only set you back $400.

Combined with an LT1 cam (.45x lift on both lobes and about 210* duration), which can be had on eBay for $50, you will have a very fast car that will save you some serious dollars, as well. Moreover, I think most people find they don't need to retune their computer chip to accomodate it.

And that's what it is all about, ain't it???