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305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

Old 11-21-2004, 09:22 PM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

My old 96 Trans Am M6 with bolt ons and full exhaust put down 280rwhp with 4.10 gears.
My friends 82 Trans Am with 96LT1 M6, bolt ons with full exhaust 3.42's, and Electric Waterpump put down 288rwhp.

I think 250-260 is not out of the question for a bone stock 96-97 LT1 A4.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:37 PM
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Well now you have my hopes up lol. I really do hope my car stock does put something like that down. My friend with full exhaust and moroso CAI put down 288.3 rwhp 31x rwtq. Its a 96 as well. No times for him yet, he works too much when the weather is nice here in Ohio, as well as the Thompson not being IMO a great track... prep is weak I think. My plans for the car include full exhaust, CAI, either AI H/C or LE H/C... but I am thinking AI, a 2800 stall torque converter as eventually a new rearend lol and transmission, as they will fall to .

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Old 11-22-2004, 01:59 AM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

I know my car definately doesn't have 360 at the wheels. I do know it is a stock longblock with no nitrous. Aerodynamics also play a part in trap speed. I can't wait to see what this thing runs when it is tuned. 112 surprised the hell out of me. With 80 extra hp from nitrous, my trap speed was 120 but the a/f ratio was under 11:1, so I was losing a lot of power.
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Old 11-22-2004, 02:49 AM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

Originally Posted by slimdawson
I know my car definately doesn't have 360 at the wheels. I do know it is a stock longblock with no nitrous. Aerodynamics also play a part in trap speed.
Aerodynamics doesn't come into play with those lower speeds in the 1/4 mile.

What are you using to measure your A/F during your runs?

Were you running at a track, on a mustang dyno, or using a G-Tech?
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Old 11-22-2004, 10:56 AM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

Sure aerodynamics play an important part in times. I wouldn't consider 100 mph low speed. Even bikers wear aerodynamic clothing in races. I doubt they are approaching 100mph.

I got my a/f from a dyno. The a/f was ok on motor but on the juice it went to under 10:1 for a second but stayed pretty much under 11:1 the rest.
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Old 11-22-2004, 02:17 PM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

Originally Posted by Zepher
Aerodynamics doesn't come into play with those lower speeds in the 1/4 mile.
Right... Stick your hand out the window at 100mph, and then tell us the same. Aerodynamics have been proven to affect highway gas mileage by every auto manufacturer, so why not acceleration at twice highway speeds?
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Old 11-22-2004, 04:29 PM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

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Right... Stick your hand out the window at 100mph, and then tell us the same. Aerodynamics have been proven to affect highway gas mileage by every auto manufacturer, so why not acceleration at twice highway speeds?
We're talking about a bolt on LT1 trapping 112 in the 1/4, which is impossible with a 3660lbs vehicle, doesn't matter how aerodynamic it is. you are not going to gain 8mph in the 1/4 with aerodynamics alone in a camaro. that would mean you are reducing your drag to compensate for the 80hp it takes to gain 8mph in the 1/4.
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Old 11-22-2004, 11:19 PM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

Originally Posted by Zepher
We're talking about a bolt on LT1 trapping 112 in the 1/4, which is impossible with a 3660lbs vehicle, doesn't matter how aerodynamic it is. you are not going to gain 8mph in the 1/4 with aerodynamics alone in a camaro. that would mean you are reducing your drag to compensate for the 80hp it takes to gain 8mph in the 1/4.
I didn't say my car weighed 3660 now. Who knows what it weighs now? It now has a 350 and a six speed. But it isn't far from it.

I like it when people say impossible That way I can prove them wrong. I just mentioned that aerodynamics play a role. I did not say they alone are to thank.

I am not the only person trapping over 110 in a bolt on LT1. Or even 112 for that matter. Do some searches in the LT1 forum and see for yourself.
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

As far as the original thread is concerned Check my sig.
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Old 11-25-2004, 02:12 PM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

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What was your setup on that iroc? Seems like our cars are close in power, but my 1.90 60ft was a little better with the drag radials. I would love to trap at 102, but my best was 101.7 in 40 degree weather. So i think until the P1sc goes on, thats it.
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:56 PM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

I think its possible...
My 88 runs very well for an automatic/and some bolt ons...no times yet..
A car with alot of low-end power launched right can put up good times even if the HP #'s are low...
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

13.55 is an excellent time and something i think is quite possible given the mods. GMHTP's Blue Thunder went 13.89 with a 2.00 60-foot time. Cut another tenth from that short time and you've got a 13.69.

Our Formula weighs 3530lbs with a quarter tank of gas and me in the seat, and i'm probably about 170 so guywidiroc's weight assesment is probably right on.

That trap speed is tremendous. BT ran a best of 96mph and the computer was seeing 7-10 degrees of knock retard due to the bad crank bearing so with the cold air and no knock, i could certainly see 100mph happen too.

A ProCharger would certainly be cool and i'm all for forced induction, but i would like to see if some heads, cam and a Super Ram could get it into the 12s. Maybe just the cam and intake would do it. Guywidiroc, are you up to the challenge?

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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

I can't believe I had to come over to the V8 boards to back up my friend with a V8.
Here it is I was there I am always there that car guywidiroc has run in the 13's quite a few times I hae a couple on video I can post them if you need to but the thing that gets me is your supposed to be cool with everyone in the camaro world when you have a camaro. Why would he lie, what would he gain, I just don't understand. I have worked on that car more than any other car I can think of and it has all he says, no internals, no cam, no headwork, and the port and polich was a drunk project and probably hurt the car for all we know.
If you need some 13 sec vids let me know i'll put them together
I'm going back to my board now GROW UP

ps. I dont mean trouble either just thought posting your best time wouldnt be such a bad thing.
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Old 01-04-2005, 01:59 PM
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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

Hi all, first post here.

Not saying I belive the guy 100%, but it may be possible. I've been a 14.35 in my LB9/Auto. Granted, I have more mods than him but people don't believe me either when I tell them that's what I run.

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Re: 305 tpi went 13.55 today!!

yeah just like cars dont through flames
http://www.michiganmodded.com/forums...opic.php?t=132
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