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Old 10-09-2009, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC
Who wants a 454? The 302 in the Z28 was WAY underrated and it was high-revving. My Uncle's Brother's Buddy's Friend's Sister's Cousin's Grandpa had a Z28 and it was only rated at 290 hp, but it was high revving and I estimate it made over 500 HP stock. He used to beat up on those pig heavy LS6 454 Chevelles back in the day because the Z28 revved so high and the Chevelles were nose heavy. He struck fear in the hearts of big block owners everywhere because they couldn't believe how high it revved! And he used to just fly around clover-leafs all day with that high revving 302 because the Z28 was built to handle and those pig heavy 454s just couldn't keep up when he was exiting the freeway. My Uncle's Brother's Buddy's Friend's Sister's Cousin's Grandpa told me so.
If only the '70 1/2 Camaro had come with the LS6...people would have the same reverence for that as the Hemi 'Cuda.

Your Uncle's Brother's Buddy's Friend's Sister's Cousin's Grandpa might even have bought one
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Originally Posted by teal98
If only the '70 1/2 Camaro had come with the LS6...people would have the same reverence for that as the Hemi 'Cuda.

Your Uncle's Brother's Buddy's Friend's Sister's Cousin's Grandpa might even have bought one
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:02 AM
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I hope I don't seem like I'm trying to bash the Z/28, because I really do love it.

I personally would love to see a 2011 Z/28 with a 302 ci naturally aspirated V8 that weighed in under 3500 pounds with upgraded suspension and brakes.

I just don't like the idea of the Z/28 being a 4000 pound nose-heavy supercharged V8. I don't think that is being true to what the original Z/28s were all about. I think a heavier 550-600 HP Camaro should be a ZL1, but I'm sure this has been discussed and argued and beaten into the ground many, many, many times before.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by teal98
If only the '70 1/2 Camaro had come with the LS6...people would have the same reverence for that as the Hemi 'Cuda.

Your Uncle's Brother's Buddy's Friend's Sister's Cousin's Grandpa might even have bought one

Or the stillborn LS7.

The '70 'Cuda has always been one of my favorites. When I was a little boy, I thought a Plumb Crazy '70 Hemi 'Cuda was the coolest car on earth. Even eclipsing the '70 1/2 split bumper Z/28, which was a close second.

I still have a soft spot for the '70 'Cuda - but now, I'd rather have a Lemon Twist AAR.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by teal98
If only the '70 1/2 Camaro had come with the LS6...people would have the same reverence for that as the Hemi 'Cuda.

Your Uncle's Brother's Buddy's Friend's Sister's Cousin's Grandpa might even have bought one
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Or the stillborn LS7.
Yeah, to bad on both counts, IIRC the intake manifold on the LS6 was hobbled a bit for clearence under the F2 hood? An LS6/7 Camaro would have been a monster and might even have prompted Ford to counter with a nice 460 CID Mustang
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:17 AM
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Yeah, to bad on both counts, IIRC the intake manifold on the LS6 was hobbled a bit for clearence under the F2 hood? An LS6/7 Camaro would have been a monster and might even have prompted Ford to counter with a nice 460 CID Mustang
Going back into the recesses of my memory, the exhaust manifolds might have needed to be more restrictive too, compared to say a bigger Chevelle.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RikChapman
Everybody gets what they want, including G.M. who get to sell more cars at a premium with almost no additional investment.
GM would probably lose out a bit with no actual premium model, I'm sure Ford makes a hell-a-lot more on GT500s than they do on the GT and V6 cars in terms of what it costs to actually produce them compared to what they charge.

And then.... there are the exclusivity whiners who would rant endlessly about how somebody with an SS can get an LSA equipped car for less than the Z/28.

However I'm in agreement with your idea since I miss the days of the good ol' LX 5.0 Mustang (I love those cars!) and what they represented.
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Going back into the recesses of my memory, the exhaust manifolds might have needed to be more restrictive too, compared to say a bigger Chevelle.
I'm sure given the difference in size of both cars. I bet a search for manifold part #s on an 396 (err... 402) powered F2 would confirm it.
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Originally Posted by bossco
And then.... there are the exclusivity whiners who would rant endlessly about how somebody with an SS can get an LSA equipped car for less than the Z/28.
I just want a factory supercharged Camaro. I really could care less what it is called, although I am against ZL1 because of its historical rarity and development as a drag-only special option. I have even suggested SS Supercharged to appease the other die-hard Z/28 fans that don't approve of the behemoth getting the Z/28 moniker. While I'd rather see it get the LS9 or at least a "detuned" version , I'd settle for the LSA with forged internals. If we can't get that, I may settle for the LSA or I may opt for a SS/RS convertible instead. That is assuming they don't offer a Z/28 convertible.

I'm just darn happy GM is considering building the beast.
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Or the stillborn LS7.

The '70 'Cuda has always been one of my favorites. When I was a little boy, I thought a Plumb Crazy '70 Hemi 'Cuda was the coolest car on earth. Even eclipsing the '70 1/2 split bumper Z/28, which was a close second.

I still have a soft spot for the '70 'Cuda - but now, I'd rather have a Lemon Twist AAR.
Agreed. Love the '70 Hemi 'Cuda ('71 ain't bad either).

My memory must be going. Was it just the intake and exhaust manifolds that were different between the LS6/7 or was there also a cam difference?
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