What gen owners like wut????
 

so here is the deal. I have a 67 camaro that i started building when i was 14. I LOVE my car and love the style of my camaro. But i seem to notice that everyone with 3rd and 4th gen HATE the retro look while the people with teh 1st and 2nd gen love the new retro style. I just wanted to see if this is tru.

plz vote :D

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Damnit, I meant to vote that I like it...(94 Z28 owner)

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i have been proven wrong so far. I really thoguht u guys did not like the new retro look

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well i would prefer it was a bit more modern/futuristic...

but i like its twist with retro/futuristic...

but like i said, less dependancy on retro... but wheel flares were the major thing back then and they really rock!

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am I the only that still hasn't see that leaked pic of the camaro? :(

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driven each generation, 67 RS, 70 SS, 87 IROC, 01 SS.. (and a friend's 91 firebird around parking lot) I have to say I don't like the retro look too much. Atleast, the concept picture is VERY bland. I'd like a new futuristic look, something sporty like the thirdgens. I like the thirdgens a lot. they feel like a real sports car all around. They're just dated a bit. I would rather have another "evolution", instead of going backwards.

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3 time 4th gen owner here (and one time 1st).
Like the new one. :)


Probally.

If you want a mental picture, imaginea cross between the Chris Pauwels drawing without the Chevy fender "swishes" and Danno's photoshop of the "clinic car". A better looking version of the full width grille, a 1st gen Firebird-like rear fender inserts/fake scoop, & a thick C-pillar that resembles the Challenger concept.

Out back, think of 4 scrunched, angry looking Corvette-like tail lights, a blackout lower portion of the bumper, with a large styleized tailpipe bookmarking it on each side. Massive tires filling wheelwells framed much like the Mustang wheel arches frame that car.

It's low and wide, and doesn't look retro, though some people think so because of it's coupe greenhouse, and full width grille. Very little if anything else is.

I think that about describes it. :)

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I own a 2nd, a 3rd, and a 4th Gen....and I like the retro....

Also....I'm of the younger crowd @ only 21

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Current 4thgen owner but more of a 3rdgen guy, love the new design.

Frankly I don't consider it particularly retro either. It looks like a modern Camaro, sure it has some design cues of the 1stgens but it certainly doesn't look like a 67 Camaro, no one will mistake it for one... I guess some people just wanted some totally new and out there design...

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I'm a 2 time 3rd gen owner and 4th gen owner. With some slight minor changes done to the "concept" I'd love to become a 5th gen owner in the future!!

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I currently own a 4th gen and previously owned a 3rd gen and i like the styling.

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I can't vote because no category fits me...

I have two 1st gens and a 4th gen and I don't think the new look is retro.

(BTW, I like what I've seen so far, but I'm withholding judgement for a few more weeks.)

:p

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You guys who say it doesn't look retro are in denial;). I'm sitting looking at the concept pics and a picture of my Dad's '69 SS ..... of course they're not "identical", but c'mon fellas, don't kid yourselves, it's retro:rolleyes:.

OK, I currently own a 4th-gen ('02 Z28) but have also owned an '81 Z28. My Dad currently has a '73 Camaro (I love that car to no end:yes: ). And like I said, he also HAD a '69 SS, as well as a couple late 70's Camaros/Firebirds over the years (when I was a kid).

I DO LIKE the looks of the concept. I can't say it's ugly or anything, otherwise that would mean I find 1st-gens ugly, which I don't:no:.

HOWEVER, I'm NOT SURE about the idea of going retro with the Camaro?:shrug: If I fall in love with it at Detroit, then I'll be ok with it. For now, I'm still deciding. It's like the "news" is taking time to settle in with me;). A part of me wishes they'd gone completely NEW design with it, while only maintaining subtle "hints" of previous generations, instead of basically a complete copy.

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If there were two categories... first being an evolution design, and another being a retro design.. the new maro definitely fits into RETRO. You can't deny it. The new maro has absolutely no third or fourth gen in it. Actually, I don't see any 2nd gen, either.

While it's not a 1st gen (it can't be, because safety standards would completely ruin the old design), it's closer to a 1st gen than any other generation has been.


I hope the official concept is better, and I hope the real car is even better than that. More cues from 3rd/4th generation. Less retro. Then I'd love it. Currently I don't like the 'clay' concept that much. It's currently too bland, however the right ideas are there. They just don't come together all that well, yet. It's a lot more (not sure this is the right word, but you understand) boxy than I ever imagined it would be, though. I expected a curvy sportiness like the SS concept was. Not going back to the old "can't handle" american muscle look ala current fat GTO

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Its called heritage styling. The Challenger concept is retro. The Camaro concept is not.

I can see styling cues from all four previous generations in the design. Some people can't see this. IMO, that's their problem.

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doesn't look retro to me. It looks like a camaro. Now the mustang looks like a carbon copy of the old ones that's for sure...

If this camaro concept is retro, then the mustang must be a early gen mustang with the corners sanded down and a new powerplant... ;)

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Well I`ve owned a 69Z,and now I have a 78 and a 94Z but I don`t think the pic that was taken off the site looked retro if that is the pic you all are talking about.My thoughts on that pic was that it looks like a Caddy or Vette rear end with mustang quarters and stupid mirrors(why not a rear view camera like George Barris did for his new GTO?)and the upper grill looks like something they took off a truck or someother new style chevy.They need to start all over again if you ask me.

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I have owned a 1st gen, and 3..3rd gens, currently 2..3rd gens.
And tho I "Like" the concept, I'd love to see the 5th follow suit to the C6.
Noone can say the C6 is retro, yet the curves, windows, stance and remind me of the things I loved from ALL gens....the only gripe I have with the C6 is the headlights, they don't have to be "pop-ups" but the body color bezels don't look good to me.
If the same approach was applied to the F5, I'll be in Heaven!..

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you all have proven me wrong! I was 99% sure most 3/4 gen owners did notlike the retro look of the new concept (yes i think it is retro but with a modern twist as some would say)

thx for voting

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ive owned a 3rd gen and i now own a 4th, and i dislike the 5th gen concept cause its retro

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You say "to-may-to", I say "to-mah-to" ;) ...

You say "heritage", I say "retro" :yes:.

Hey, I'm just being honest, and I think I'm looking at it from "average Joe public's" perspective. I think that anybody who knows old Camaros will look at this concept and say "hey, that looks a lot like the old ones ... kinda like the new Mustang looks like the old ones". Well, those are the thoughts that run through my head anyways?:rolleyes:

I realize that our crowd here on the board is made up of "enthusiasts", and we're a different crowd than "average Joe public", and we're going to pick apart the car, and be more critical, and technical, but I'm just as much of a Camaro lover as you are, I have/had more than 1 F-body in my lifetime, but I DO NOT see any 2nd or 4th-gen influence in the concept :no: :shrug:. Unless you could show me a side-by-side comparison, or describe in DETAIL the similarities, all I see from the FRONT ANGLE SHOT is a 1st-gen Camaro (I'll even give you that it has the "boxy" look of a 3rd-gen, but there's no 2nd or 4th:no: ).

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Im confused I dont know how to vote since I've had a 1st 2nd and 4th gen. But I like the retro.

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Most people that have seen it seem to think it is retro. The people on this board that say it isn't retro at all have a hard enough time trying to convince everyone on an internet message board that it isn't retro. Good luck with the masses when they see it. The internet is one of the few places I have heard someone say that the new Mustang is not retro. Everyone I have ever talked to, and all the major automotive publications I have read, have considered the Mustang retro, and likely will consider the 5th gen retro.

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I think people tend to associate heritage styling with something more like the new c6. Something brand new, but has some styling cues from the past in it if you are smart enough to notice them. Something like the 5th gen is going to be considered retro by the overwhelming general population, like it or not. I can see 1st gen all over it when I look at it.

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Maybe I'm the only one, but I see no third gen influence on the concept.

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Try squinting a little, looking at the front end, imagine a filler panel between the headlights, hood and windshield area, and the wide 5-spoke wheels. ;)

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I say the car is very modern look at the under side and the running gear.
It still keeps it roots and looks like a Camaro in a updated design.
Just how many different shapes do you think you can make body panels.
Do you call what comes from Europe the way you want a Camaro when they all look like a box and all have the same look to them, they all copy each other with a little twist to the looks.
I happen to love what I have seen and think it will even be better in person.

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interesting.. even if you take % of 1-2 owners vs % of 3-4 owners..

75.0% of 1-2 owners like it
78.5% of 3-4 owners like it

so you were way off in your assumptions..