How much of a turn off would a "gas guzzler" tax be for you?
If it has anything less than 1000HP it would be very disappointing.
I don't understand how they wouldn't be able to match the automatic's fuel economy with a manual. What about our good friend CAGS?
I don't understand how they wouldn't be able to match the automatic's fuel economy with a manual. What about our good friend CAGS?
the problem is how to get the active fuel management (cylinder deactivation) to work with the manual trans...
Gas guzzler means 1 of two things:
Either no thought was given to efficiency when designing the drivetrain (so, a screaming ferrari engine places more emphasis on crazy throttle response and high-revving power than tooling about at low RPM in a high gear, and the Dodge Viper V-10 is designed to do just one thing: Rip off your face)
Or the car is unacceptably fat.
I'm not going to be able to afford the super top-dog car unless they take the route they did with the 4th gen and price the Z/28 to compete with the 'stang and make the SS nothing but a suspension and intake package with some interior goodies, which I hope they do, actually, but I wouldn't accept a gas guzzler tax on a vehicle I purchased unless I was in the market for something like a Viper. I would never buy a GT500, for example. Why? You can get better overall performance for less money, minus a gas tax, and without having to fill up once a week just to drive around town a couple times.
The corvette (even the Z06) does not have the tax. The camaro should not either.
Either no thought was given to efficiency when designing the drivetrain (so, a screaming ferrari engine places more emphasis on crazy throttle response and high-revving power than tooling about at low RPM in a high gear, and the Dodge Viper V-10 is designed to do just one thing: Rip off your face)
Or the car is unacceptably fat.
I'm not going to be able to afford the super top-dog car unless they take the route they did with the 4th gen and price the Z/28 to compete with the 'stang and make the SS nothing but a suspension and intake package with some interior goodies, which I hope they do, actually, but I wouldn't accept a gas guzzler tax on a vehicle I purchased unless I was in the market for something like a Viper. I would never buy a GT500, for example. Why? You can get better overall performance for less money, minus a gas tax, and without having to fill up once a week just to drive around town a couple times.
The corvette (even the Z06) does not have the tax. The camaro should not either.
I really don't understand why GG is a turn-off -- it is just a factor of the cost of the car. If the car was $30 + $2k GG, or if it was $32 with no GG tax, it makes no difference to me.
While personally, I would rather GM put the $2k into reducing weight (even though it could never actually be that simple), I have a feeling marketing would rather have the lower MSRP since everyone keeps talking about how cheap they want the car to be.
Now, a more interesting question might be : L76 with no GG tax vs. LS3 with GG tax?
While personally, I would rather GM put the $2k into reducing weight (even though it could never actually be that simple), I have a feeling marketing would rather have the lower MSRP since everyone keeps talking about how cheap they want the car to be.
Now, a more interesting question might be : L76 with no GG tax vs. LS3 with GG tax?
I was looking forward to step up to a G8 GT lease next fall. The 6-speed was why I was going to even bother. Great car all around no doubt, but the manual was my deal breaker. When the hell are we going to get a mid-sized RWD sedan with a manual from GM around here?!?!



