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How much of a turn off would a "gas guzzler" tax be for you?

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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How much of a turn off would a "gas guzzler" tax be for you?

Challenger SRT8 will have one. GT500 has one.

How much of a turn off would a gas guzzler tax be, if Camaro has one?
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Barring the fact that I doubt it'll get one, you mean?

...I might rethink the trim level a little - but I won't hesistate on the Car itself.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Barring the fact that I doubt it'll get one, you mean?
I hope it doesn't get one either.

Incidentally, the rumor mill is saying that the G8 GT will now never get an M6 in NA in order to avoid the gas guzzler tax.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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My present plans are to wait for the topdog. If that requires a "gas guzzler" tax (I doubt it) so be it.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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It's a great argument for a lightly used car, IMO.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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It's only money
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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It's only money
It's not so much the money as it is the implication that it would be a big, fat-***, ****.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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It's not so much the money as it is the implication that it would be a big, fat-***, ****.
Here we go again.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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If it has anything less than 1000HP it would be very disappointing.
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Incidentally, the rumor mill is saying that the G8 GT will now never get an M6 in NA in order to avoid the gas guzzler tax.
I don't understand how they wouldn't be able to match the automatic's fuel economy with a manual. What about our good friend CAGS?
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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The current Z06 doesn't have it... why would the camaro have it?
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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If it has anything less than 1000HP it would be very disappointing.
I don't understand how they wouldn't be able to match the automatic's fuel economy with a manual. What about our good friend CAGS?
the problem is how to get the active fuel management (cylinder deactivation) to work with the manual trans...
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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The current Z06 is 3100lbs and more aerodynamic.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Gas guzzler means 1 of two things:

Either no thought was given to efficiency when designing the drivetrain (so, a screaming ferrari engine places more emphasis on crazy throttle response and high-revving power than tooling about at low RPM in a high gear, and the Dodge Viper V-10 is designed to do just one thing: Rip off your face)

Or the car is unacceptably fat.

I'm not going to be able to afford the super top-dog car unless they take the route they did with the 4th gen and price the Z/28 to compete with the 'stang and make the SS nothing but a suspension and intake package with some interior goodies, which I hope they do, actually, but I wouldn't accept a gas guzzler tax on a vehicle I purchased unless I was in the market for something like a Viper. I would never buy a GT500, for example. Why? You can get better overall performance for less money, minus a gas tax, and without having to fill up once a week just to drive around town a couple times.

The corvette (even the Z06) does not have the tax. The camaro should not either.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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I really don't understand why GG is a turn-off -- it is just a factor of the cost of the car. If the car was $30 + $2k GG, or if it was $32 with no GG tax, it makes no difference to me.

While personally, I would rather GM put the $2k into reducing weight (even though it could never actually be that simple), I have a feeling marketing would rather have the lower MSRP since everyone keeps talking about how cheap they want the car to be.

Now, a more interesting question might be : L76 with no GG tax vs. LS3 with GG tax?
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Incidentally, the rumor mill is saying that the G8 GT will now never get an M6 in NA in order to avoid the gas guzzler tax.
you have to be kidding...

I was looking forward to step up to a G8 GT lease next fall. The 6-speed was why I was going to even bother. Great car all around no doubt, but the manual was my deal breaker. When the hell are we going to get a mid-sized RWD sedan with a manual from GM around here?!?!



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