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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Flexfuel Camaro

Just want to get your thoughts on this.I have noticed that In my area that the price of this stuff is around 2.29 a gallon vs 2.90 for super premium.

With that to think about should Chevy build a flexfuel Camaro.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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I'd say yes, assuming that performance will NOT be affected.. i also believe there's not a lot to it.. I'm not entirely sure.

Anyways, it would be a good idea to have flexfuel.. It would do a few things.. if someone wants security in being able to use a cheaper alternative.. that might certainly make someone choose a Camaro over a mustang (assuming the mustang won't go flexfuel).. and it might make them buy a muscle car altogether. Power with the option to save by running cheap gas. Some die-hards will say no.. but i think it has more advantages than disadvantages to doing this. You don't HAVE to run E85 or whatever.. and if someone cares enough and is paranoid enough they can always remove the flex-fuel stuff, like they do with A/C, etc. E85 can stand higher compression, too, can't it?

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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterEvilAce
I'd say yes, assuming that performance will NOT be affected.. i also believe there's not a lot to it.. I'm not entirely sure.

Anyways, it would be a good idea to have flexfuel.. It would do a few things.. if someone wants security in being able to use a cheaper alternative.. that might certainly make someone choose a Camaro over a mustang (assuming the mustang won't go flexfuel).. and it might make them buy a muscle car altogether. Power with the option to save by running cheap gas. Some die-hards will say no.. but i think it has more advantages than disadvantages to doing this. You don't HAVE to run E85 or whatever.. and if someone cares enough and is paranoid enough they can always remove the flex-fuel stuff, like they do with A/C, etc
"flex fuel stuff" is higher flow injectors, stainless fuel lines, special fuel pump(alchol proof), special PCM calibration
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Thats kinda my thoughts too.A friend of mine has a flexfuel Avalanche and he says the flex fuel actually has a little more "kick" to it than regular gas and milage is better.

If that is really true i would love to see one.The best of both worlds,better fuel milage,cheaper price and still have the power.

That's a win,win,win situation to me.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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The added cost of offering flex-fuel engines will be easily offset by the higher quality parts used (and thus less breakign under warrenty) as well as the broader appeal of a "green" muscle car.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ZRAPTOR
Thats kinda my thoughts too.A friend of mine has a flexfuel Avalanche and he says the flex fuel actually has a little more "kick" to it than regular gas and milage is better.

If that is really true i would love to see one.The best of both worlds,better fuel milage,cheaper price and still have the power.

That's a win,win,win situation to me.
He is smoking something. Flex Fuel has less energy than gasoline. It is a fact you will get less mileage with it. As for as the camaro using it, I doubt it. Performance cars are tuned for higher grade fuels. E85 will not likely cut it, but it would be interesting if it could.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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"flex fuel stuff" is higher flow injectors, stainless fuel lines, special fuel pump(alchol proof), special PCM calibration
lol.. exactly.. if they're paranoid enough.

Seems like a good idea, PERIOD, to me.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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I think it should be a MUST to have the Camaro be flexfuel compatible. We're talking 2 years down the road here and if gas continues to go up, E85 is gonna take off. I think the Camaro should be ready for it if/when it does.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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I think it should be a MUST to have the Camaro be flexfuel compatible. We're talking 2 years down the road here and if gas continues to go up, E85 is gonna take off. I think the Camaro should be ready for it if/when it does.

My thoughts exactlly,even if it is not as powerful as regular gas you always have the option to fill it with super and have the power you want.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Didn't the FBodFather say that the Camaro concept is Flexfuel compatible and therefore the production car would be as well?
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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6sd auto flexfuel hybrid with AFM.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ZRAPTOR
Thats kinda my thoughts too.A friend of mine has a flexfuel Avalanche and he says the flex fuel actually has a little more "kick" to it than regular gas and milage is better.

If that is really true i would love to see one.The best of both worlds,better fuel milage,cheaper price and still have the power.

That's a win,win,win situation to me.
He'd better run some more controlled tests. You will not get better fuel economy on E85, it will be worse than pure petro. On the other hand you CAN make more power at WOT with it. It seems the general public isn't very well informed on the differences between fuels.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Shellhead
Didn't the FBodFather say that the Camaro concept is Flexfuel compatible and therefore the production car would be as well?
I am pretty sure they said it had AFM, but I dont recall flexfuel.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SFireGT98
I think it should be a MUST to have the Camaro be flexfuel compatible. We're talking 2 years down the road here and if gas continues to go up, E85 is gonna take off. I think the Camaro should be ready for it if/when it does.
E85 flucuates as much as gas and sometimes is the exact same price. You will get less mileage with E85. From what I have read, E85 needs to be about 2/3 of gas to make for the mileage difference. Also, with the amount of corn needed to create enough E85, you could be looking at higher food prices (steak b/c they feed corn to cows, etc) because of greater E85 usage. Not to mention, I don't think there is enough farm in the states to support E85 usage for the 1/2 the country to use. Bottom line is we need another fuels source... on that note, check out this car.

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1

Just wow on performance. Looks too much like a Ferrari if you ask me.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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[QUOTE=Buttercup]He'd better run some more controlled tests. You will not get better fuel economy on E85, it will be worse than pure petro. On the other hand you CAN make more power at WOT with it. It seems the general public isn't very well informed on the differences between fuels.[/QUOTE=Buttercup]

That's just what he told me,he is really not what you would call a car person.He's more than likely just repeating what what some salesman told him.He has only had the Avalanche for about 3 weeks.As for the mileage deal,rather it does or dosn't get better mileage make no difference to me.I would just like the savings on gas every once in awhile.



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