Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by RussStang
I think it would be pretty interesting if the Blue Devil Corvette actually ended up being called a ZL1 Corvette, and an extremely limited super Camaro trim going by ZL1 also came to the table, both cars sharing the LS7 replacement motor. Just a thought. Sounds like a neat idea at 4 in the morning. Maybe it will sound different after I sleep on it.
I do like the Blue Devil name though, and Ive always liked the Sting Ray name as well. ZL1 would link Vette to Camaro. I dont know much about the Vettes though but the names are cool.
Last edited by 5thgen69camaro; May 4, 2006 at 01:49 PM.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Stingray was never really a trim level, just a body style. I am not too keen on a super Vette being called Stingray. I am fairly certain Blue Devil is just a code name. Besides, Corvette BD doesn't sound nearly as good as Corvette ZL1.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by RussStang
Stingray was never really a trim level, just a body style. I am not too keen on a super Vette being called Stingray. I am fairly certain Blue Devil is just a code name. Besides, Corvette BD doesn't sound nearly as good as Corvette ZL1.
Last edited by 5thgen69camaro; May 4, 2006 at 02:21 PM.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by stars1010
As many of you saw a few months ago I put together a model and options list for the new Camaro....
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by guionM
How is it you get to post some of that stuff and if I even hint at it I get zapped by "V-chips" and get black Suburbans following me around? 

I'm a college student and no one takes me seriously, I also don’t have any real connections anyway.....
I only dropped like 1 or 2 big hints in this thread.
And none of the info I posted in this thread is in stone anyway....
I'll delete the thread if I'm asked to....
Last edited by stars1010; May 4, 2006 at 03:54 PM.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
EDIT: i added the numbers so it would be easier to read the replies
1: yes i have.
2: if someone buys a car like this proposed z28, they are not really gonna care about fuel economy, or a luxury ride (this is at least my opinion). yes they cost more but that is not an issue (again, this is my opinion).
3: i know, its hard to believe people drive a 500 hp car like this, but i drive my 400 hp car like this and will certainly drive this one as well. whats the point of owning it if you cant have any fun?
4: this is why the radio needs to be the standard gm style double din or even a single din without the climate controls integrated.
5: this works but there is signal degradation when going this route, plus the aftermarket offers much better stuff along the lines of head units and speakers then the factory could ever offer.
these are just my opinions, but they make the car easier to personlize, which is important to a lot of folks out there.
thanks
Originally Posted by Geoff Chadwick
:1 AZZKKER - have you ever driven a car with tires those widths?
:2 Before you say otherwise - wider rear tires also "mess up the ride", decrease fuel economy, and cost more.
:3 And above 500hp, you're going to light up tires. Thats how it goes. And if you're lighting up 315's on the street several times a day (cause you're driving it that rough and showing off) you deserve to go through tires that quickly! Also super wide wheels mean more suspension and body clearance, and deeper wheel wells mean less interior room.
:4 Own one of the newer Mazdas? Cant do much to a lot of em. All these jacks for aftermarket? Not a chance they'll give em to you.
:5 I made my stock head unit work with amplifiers, and if I wanted to on a new car I'd do it again. Its not hard and there are products out there that splice it all for you.
:2 Before you say otherwise - wider rear tires also "mess up the ride", decrease fuel economy, and cost more.
:3 And above 500hp, you're going to light up tires. Thats how it goes. And if you're lighting up 315's on the street several times a day (cause you're driving it that rough and showing off) you deserve to go through tires that quickly! Also super wide wheels mean more suspension and body clearance, and deeper wheel wells mean less interior room.
:4 Own one of the newer Mazdas? Cant do much to a lot of em. All these jacks for aftermarket? Not a chance they'll give em to you.
:5 I made my stock head unit work with amplifiers, and if I wanted to on a new car I'd do it again. Its not hard and there are products out there that splice it all for you.
2: if someone buys a car like this proposed z28, they are not really gonna care about fuel economy, or a luxury ride (this is at least my opinion). yes they cost more but that is not an issue (again, this is my opinion).
3: i know, its hard to believe people drive a 500 hp car like this, but i drive my 400 hp car like this and will certainly drive this one as well. whats the point of owning it if you cant have any fun?
4: this is why the radio needs to be the standard gm style double din or even a single din without the climate controls integrated.
5: this works but there is signal degradation when going this route, plus the aftermarket offers much better stuff along the lines of head units and speakers then the factory could ever offer.
these are just my opinions, but they make the car easier to personlize, which is important to a lot of folks out there.
thanks
Last edited by AZZKKER; May 4, 2006 at 06:09 PM.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by jg95z28
Personally I want the Z28... fully loaded, but in a convertible with the 6-speed automatic and paddle shifters on the steering column. 

Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by CamaroRSguy
a "Z/28" should not be limited production. I know it was in the first gen, but since then it never has been, and shouldnt be again.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by AZZKKER
2: if someone buys a car like this proposed z28, they are not really gonna care about fuel economy, or a luxury ride (this is at least my opinion). yes they cost more but that is not an issue (again, this is my opinion).
The guy in charge of Corvette now said it too - half the people that buy a Z06 dont need that power and will never use it - but its the fact that they HAVE it, that makes them happy. To brag about it at the pub, so to speak.
...
Imagine all those young men and kids that had fantasies about the GT500, about the ZL1 Camaro. They arent hardcore racers (well, most of em atleast). They're probably in their 50's or 60's. But perhaps the look of a super sleek and sexy vette is appealing - but there is nothing that beats a childhood fantasy, a look of a brute- a musclecar. I'm sorry, I love the vette, but it doesnt look the way the concept Camaro looks.
A well built ZL1 Camaro that wasnt too agressive, wasnt too edgy, and was still driveable (much like the Z06 corvette is) would sell. The more hardcore, the smaller the market. By running the knife edge, they can sell more of them. Give us just enough to keep us lunatics happy through the warranty period, give everyone else as much insanity as they'll buy. If its done right, You'd see the % sales of ZL1's & Z28's as you do Z06 Vettes. That should be the goal. Make it driveable for the average lunatic and keep it as affordable as possible. We need sales to keep a new camaro alive.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Interesting...
I think the BIG brakes, coolers, etc., should be a standard part of the Z/28 package.
And I'd also prefer a high compression, NA, smallblock....(in a very nasty state of tune of course
) than a heavier, more complex, SC'd motor.
I think the BIG brakes, coolers, etc., should be a standard part of the Z/28 package.
And I'd also prefer a high compression, NA, smallblock....(in a very nasty state of tune of course
) than a heavier, more complex, SC'd motor.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by 95redLT1
I used to agree with you 100%, now only about 90%. While a high compression motor sounds sweet and turns heads, the whine of a blower tends to do the same, but you get the (holy $h*t what is in that look) when they hear it. Have you had a chance to drive or ride in an 03/04 Cobra yet? Superchargers are fun

Yeah, and they pull from just about every rpm as well. However, a good high revving, high compression big horsepower NA motor is extremely satisfying as well.
Re: Build Your 2009 Camaro thread II (Prices Included)
Originally Posted by JoeliusZ28
i doubt the Z28 will even have an automatic availible... if they actually do it right. the first gen didnt, and cobras dont either. i also wouldnt be surprised to see hardtop only.
Don't get me wrong, I love stick shifts, but the only way my wife would ever drive it is if it had an automatic. (She can drive a stick, she just won't.) On second thought, maybe I do want a 6-speed manual.


