jproz1167

I raced my friends 95 z28 with my 97 v-6 and after 3 quik runs up to about 60mph my v-6 stayed with him every time. I know his is for a fact a LT1 or could he have got a LT1 that at some point was swapped for a baby LT1.

Yes I know the LT1 should slaughter my 3.8 and no my 3.8 has never had any mods done to it. My friends camaro seems to run okay, I told him after he bugged me for a awhile about racing that why bother when I know your z28 will slaughter my car.

I have a 1990 corvette and can say it will trash my 97 camaro right from the start. So guys does this sound like he could have a baby LT1 that was swapped at some point? If so how could I tell easily and does this 0-60 stuff sound like he has a baby LT1.

When I first bought this 97 camaro brand new I also test drove a 97 z28 so I know for a fact the z28 can kick the crap out of the v-6

Ocala93TA

When was the last time he did a tune up ? how does it run ? Misses etc. How many miles Your right you shouldnt keep with him .

6SpdLT1Z

Sure it's possible, but not likely.

Bad driver, the car could have issues (whether the be minor or severe), etc.

I'd say it's more likely that he has a clogged cat, etc. than a "baby lt1"

jproz1167

His car seems to run pretty good, in 2 out of 3 of the races I got him out of the hole and it took quite a distance for him to catch up. the 3rd he got the jump but never pulled more then a car lenght. we raced and braked around 60mph ... As for mileage mine has 137k his unknown but I know he had a new cat converter put on and replaced head gaskets. My car 100% bone stock but has 3.42 gears, he claims mine to be modified to keep up with his car but I told him sorry, bought it brand new and can definitely say its stock.

So is there any way to visually tell if he has a baby LT1

Ocala93TA

There was only one block used for the 265 cid version ( Baby lt1) of the LT1. It’s a 10168588 casting that had the numbers "4.3" cast on the side, too. It’s real easy to spot if the heads are off because of the small 3.74" bore thats really the only way to tell . Iam sure he has alum heads ? The casting number is on the back of the block above the bellhousing by the way

jproz1167

I am not sure if it has aluminum heads. I had almost thought he had a 3.4 camaro tagged with z28 badges but it is definitely a LT1 intake and a V8. Oh well when I register my 90 vette will have to smoke him good. If he could barely beat my 3.8 this vette will stomp him good. He also says his car handles incredibly good and will stay with my vette in corners. Is he dillusional in this thinking too? My 97 has that 3800 performance package and handles pretty good how did that suspension handle compared to a 95 z28?

my 90 vette has the FX3 adjustable suspension with the Z51 springs .... will his z28 stay with it in the corners?

RealDealZ28

What in the world is a "baby LT1?"

jproz1167

A 200hp 4.3 liter v-8 that looks just like a 5.7 liter LT1. That is the question on why my 3.8 kept up with him when if it was a LT1 he should have slaughtered me from the start. To make matters worse after the 3 sprints he said he was close to empty and mine was full. I would think even a poor running LT1 could have killed my 6 banger but this one had to work hard just to beat me by a car length. That 1 car length was achieved by him manually shifting his automatic and I just left mine in drive.

Need4Camaro

I think what happened is this... The Y87 V6 cars are very snappy off the line since they have the 3.42's and the 3.8L in general actually makes a good bit of Tourque... you only raced to 60, I think things would have been much different from a roll and going from 60 to 120...

dennis5374

That baby lt1 running right should still walk away from the v6. I would guess there are issues with his car. Is he smoking the tires off the line? I beat a 2008 twin Turbo Corvette with can only and 12 broken damper springs in my heads. Chunks of metal all over the valve train. I jumped him by about 5-6 cars out of the hole cause he liquefied his Yoko Hamas.that being said after 100 he blew by me like I was standing still. I took him for 100.00 though lol

andssrew1990

Those Y87 cars are quick from my experience.


Although Ill be able to tell you personally how the baby LT1 fares against one once I get mine up and running.

viperkiller

does his lt1 have the 2:73 gears. could answer some questions

OVA1

LOL... A baby LT1 would still crush the 3.6... A few possibilities.

First, he's got a v6 with a Z28 badge.

Second, he's running on 4 cylinders...

Third, you're yankin' someone's chain and BUT GOOD!

Now I say that with a thousand or more passes under my belt... having raced just about everything that's been to the regional track for T&T, for several years.

And it's not even a debatable point: Z28s do not compete with 3.6 v6s... they crush them like a mosquito. Not trying to be a smart-ish... not trying to denigrate your ride. My son has a 97 Firebird v6 5-speed... nice ride, very peppy. I know the car very well. And you may very well have yourself a distinctly fast version. My son does and it's always nice when that happens. But even IF your ride was the freak of all freaks and his Z was the nastiest turd of all Zs... You're gonna lose every time, except where there is a major mechanical issue.

I really enjoyed the inquiry though. Thanks for sharin'.

andssrew1990

Well not exactly a 3.8l car, but I did get a chance to mess with a New v6 Camaro. He pulled ahead of me every time but he didnt blow my doors off.

The Baby LT1 is not a speed demon from what I have learned lol.

John M

Those 2.73s aren't doing you any favors in the acceleration department. Along with the posi it probably keeps you planted nicely in first, even with that converter, but numerically it hurts you in every gear after that.