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Old 05-26-2004, 12:29 PM   #1
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Cheap Brake Upgrades for a 3rd gen???

Does anyone know of any cheap brake upgrades, i.e. calipers with bigger pistons that will work with a 3rd gen or maybe bigger rotors from another model. One of my friends is a Ford guy and he managed to do a bunch of brake upgrades by swapping parts from a few other vehicles Ford built over the years. Thought I might be able to try something like that with my 3rd gen Camaro. Or am I smoking crack.....?

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Old 05-26-2004, 05:58 PM   #2
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Old 05-28-2004, 09:17 PM   #3
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1LE

Get the 1LE front brake parts it's a direct bolt on which uses 12" rotors and bigger calipers.
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Old 06-05-2004, 02:12 PM   #4
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I got c5 brakes on my 85 Trans Am. here's a pic of the adapter brackets and calipers. Oh, they won't fit under a 16" wheel, as the rotors are 13" and the calipers are pretty big.
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/atta...postid=1724918
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Old 06-05-2004, 07:04 PM   #5
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I'm in the middle of swapping ls1 brakes unto my Iroc. I bought the calipers/cariers from a local yard and the rotors new. I machined the old rotors into hubs and am making the brackets to bolt the carriers to the stock,modded spindle. Total cost will be around 200 dollars and the car will out brake a 1Le equipped car.
All the info is available on thirdgen.org. I didn't do any design work on this swap. Just followed the info. btw the brakes are 12" and you can run stock wheels.
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Old 06-07-2004, 10:47 PM   #6
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Thanks guys. That was what I was looking to hear.

One question with the thirgen.org article, are you only swapping in the rear LS1 brakes or did I miss the the article dealing with the fronts as well?

And the C5 brakes, how did you go about doing that? I am pretty sure the Baer kits I see use some Corvette parts.

Now I am just wondering if it would be possible to swap ZO6 brakes onto my 85 Z28. I've ridden in a ZO6 and man do they have some serious "Whoa!" like I saw a guy have on his 4th gen.

....but maybe I am getting a little carried away.

Thanks again.

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I'm actually swapping both front and rear ls1 brakes. I'm doing the front first and then the rear.
With brackets you can fit either ls1 or c5 brakes on a 3rd gen with spindle modification and custom brackets. you will need 17" wheels for the c5s though.
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the z06 brakes are the same as the regular c5 brakes, the pads are a little different coumpound, but basically the same. They z06 calipers even cost the same, even with the red powdercoating. Most of the "whoa" comes from the 13" rotor. I have 17" ZR1 corvette wheels for mine. I got everything to convert my brakes to c5 for $400, except pads ($50), rotors ($30 each), and converting my hubs ($30). Baer track kits use older c4/1LE calipers.
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Hey thanks to you both for all of your help. This sounds like this will be a welcome addition to the car I am hoping to become a serious autocross machine. Does seem a little daunting soley because I have never really adapted parts from different years. If it wasn't a bolt-on I didn't buy it. However since my best friend just converted his 66 Mustang from drum/drum to disc/disc from a bunch of different Ford models (that was what inspired me to start this thread), I am hoping to use him sort of as a guide. He is teaching me fabricating can be more fun than just calling Summit.

I did see the original thread for the guy that did this as well as looked at a few links along the way. So the work involved is pretty much the same to swap either 98+ Camaro discs on as there is to swap C5 brakes on to the rear, correct?

The brackets you need to adapt the brakes are something you need to make, correct? What spindle mods do I need to make to the front? Have either of you seen any documentation online? If I am going to have the car apart to do the rear, guess it makes sense to do the fronts as well.

Of course I am also guessing that this swap is not as intimidating as it might sound and just need to get all of the parts laid out in front of me. Just still kind of amazed you can actually do this swap. I had really contemplated buying a Baer kit eventually but this sounds a bit more appealing not to mention cheaper.

Like I said, thanks again for yout time and knowledge.

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Old 06-09-2004, 12:34 AM   #10
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http://82lt1.cz28.com/brakes/brakes.html

link for a guy who sells the brackets for the c5 front brakes. It's kinda a precision thing, so i let him do that. he also provided me with the fasteners and stuff for the swap, but the page has all the info so you can take care of it yourself. The rear brakes, however, there is only info on the 98+ f-body swap. corvettes have IRS, so the braking systems are to different to swap. the f-body rears are 12", which is plenty anyway. A good match for either the 12" 98+ f-body fronts, or the 13" c5 brakes.
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Ah, thank you 85TransAm406. That link helps tremendously.
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