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Old Feb 27, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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Opinions on energy supension end links

Got my front sway bar off...... along with everything else except for the engine.... but anyways should i put in the energy suspension end links or reuse my old ones... are they worth the 20 bucks.

My car is geared for 1.) acceleration, 2.) streetability, 3.)road racing
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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Since no one's answered, I'll take a shot. For acceleration and streetability, the front poly end links are a negative. For road racing, they're a positive.

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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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thanks dave... Ill be leaving them out then
Old Mar 11, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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Leaving them out?????? You DO want end links.
Old Mar 11, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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i meant i'd be leaving them off my purchase list...

ill be using my stockers
Old Mar 11, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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Yucky, I love poly end links Down with sloppy handling cars I say.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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Urethane endlink bushings are much more durable than the stock ones are. Urethane bushings in the sway bar do not bind, and do not break down. Also they are much stronger than the stock links (which I've broken and seen break from time to time).

There is no reason not to run the ES endlinks if you need to replace yours. I do want to add one thing. The car will react to the sway bar more quickly with urethane bushings due to the lesser amount of deflection from the urethane vs. the stock plastic and rubber bushings. Better endlinks do not lessen the body roll. Only more spring or sway bar can do that, but it does make the bar react and restain roll more quickly, which can make the car feel like it's rolling less than it was before.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by 01 FS Z28
The car will react to the sway bar more quickly with urethane bushings due to the lesser amount of deflection from the urethane vs. the stock plastic and rubber bushings.
Hmmm. that's how I defined "not best for acceleration" and "less streetable" in the initial question. Less flex in the front end lessens weight transfer to the rear, and also will make for a stiffer/rougher ride on the street. On his third priority, road racing - absolutely do them.

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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If ZDriver96 is talking about acceleration at the local dragstrip, all he needs to do is remove one endlink for the duration of the event. And perhaps loosen the other one as well, assuming that the car would pass tech that way.

I've never noticed that "streetability" with poly endlink bushings was ever an issue worthy of complaint, actually. But you could dish the endlink washers and contour the ends of the poly pieces that bear against the washers such that less resistance is developed against the angles between the endlinks and the bar and LCA change as the suspension moves. And not torquing the endlink nuts to the point of bulging the poly will also help the ride quality somewhat (not to mention prolonging the life of the endlinks themselves).

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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thanks for all the additional info.

I put the regular end links back on and have them somewhat tight right now. im curious to see how i like the feel of the car with bilsteins and the 32mm sway bar. if it still feels sloppy i'll buy the poly end links.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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Thumbs up

Please post back in a week or so to let us know what you decide.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by ZDriver96
I put the regular end links back on and have them somewhat tight right now
They need no compression You will kill the endlink bushings as they will mushroom out, if the car is lowered excessively without changing end-link length, or overcompressing the endlinks.
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