2003...Mustang 390hp...Camaro 0

[Z284ever]

For 2003 Mustang packs 390 horses... Camaro..0

Do you wait for 5th gen or do you get a Mustang?

[guionM]

I would wait for next years NAIAS & LA's International auto show first. It appears that Chrysler's new RWD cars, a Mustang concept, & at least a Camaro concept might be shown being that all seem to be planned for the 2004 calender year.

If no Camaro, then I'd say things don't look good.

For the Mustang Bullit, advertised over 270 HP, what did it come with? 265. For the Mustang GaySpecial Terminator, advertised over 375, or whatever, will be way under that.

The day that a stock mustang comes with 390 HP, will be the day that that a 4th gen overnight goes to FWD. It aint happening. At least not in large numbers. Remeber the Cobra R? No stereo or AC?!?!?!

By that time, the vete will be close to 500.

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[Z284ever]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by aeromaks:

The day that a stock mustang comes with 390 HP, will be the day that that a 4th gen overnight goes to FWD. .

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When a Mustang comes with 390hp...the Camaro won't be going FWD.....it will just be going!

[RiceEating5.0]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by aeromaks:
For the Mustang Bullit, advertised over 270 HP, what did it come with? 265. For the Mustang GaySpecial Terminator, advertised over 375, or whatever, will be way under that.

The day that a stock mustang comes with 390 HP, will be the day that that a 4th gen overnight goes to FWD. It aint happening. At least not in large numbers. Remeber the Cobra R? No stereo or AC?!?!?!

By that time, the vete will be close to 500.

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The Cobra R was produced the way it was for a very "specific" reason, one that is different then the upcoming Cobra. Fords intentions weren't to compete with the z06 head on or make it a street/luxury sports car. Had they wanted to do that, they'd have a street version with the cubes to match. As for the power, all i have to say is "Supercharged 4.6L Dohc" . Go see the hp that the average blown 4.6L dohc on 7-9 pounds of boost makes. Yes, 460-490 horses!!. 390 would be very achievable and quite possibly underrated, even with low boost.

Keep an eye on next months auto show, and keep a kleenex near by. As for the vette, 500 is little high. The next z06 would be lucky to see 450.

[lightning2000]

If you guys didn't know cause of the latest problems Fords been having cutting down in size, the Mustang Terminator has been terminated for who knows how long.

[Darth Xed]

Ford has a recent history of over-rating their cars, or missing production all together. Enough said.




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Darth Xed
1999 Camaro Z28
LS-1 6 Speed
Mods: Borla Cat-Back; Bridgestone Potenza RE730's; MTI Air Lid; Holley Power Shot; Flux-Capacitor

[Z284ever]

Even if the Cobras' 390hp end up being over rated (and I think SVT is very sensitive about NOT doing that)...the point is ..it will be entering a market place with no new Camaro; or announcement on a new Camaro; on the horizon.


Should the Camaro faithful wait indefinitely?

[Darth Xed]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z284ever:
Even if the Cobras' 390hp end up being over rated (and I think SVT is very sensitive about NOT doing that)...the point is ..it will be entering a market place with no new Camaro; or announcement on a new Camaro; on the horizon.


Should the Camaro faithful wait indefinitely?</font>

Indefinately? No...

But I, personally, wouldn't jump on the first thing to come out... unless I loved it of course... I am not a big fan of the current Mustang. Sure, it's more along the lines of what I like that most other cars out there today, but I just dont care for the styling or the driving position, etc...



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Darth Xed
1999 Camaro Z28
LS-1 6 Speed
Mods: Borla Cat-Back; Bridgestone Potenza RE730's; MTI Air Lid; Holley Power Shot; Flux-Capacitor

[original SS]

I don't care if Ford came out with a Mustang that produced 450 HP, I'd still go with a Chevy. If Ford had such a Mustang it would go for about $60,000. Affordable high performance is packed in none other but Chevy. When the new Z28 is born it will have great performance but still be reasonably priced!

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[Z284ever]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by original SS:
When the new Z28 is born it will have great performance but still be reasonably priced!

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When the new Z/28 is born...I won't be happy with "great performance"...I will accept nothing less than "world beating/awesome performance."

[Darth Xed]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z284ever:
When the new Z/28 is born...I won't be happy with "great performance"...I will accept nothing less than "world beating/awesome performance."

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Let's be realisitic here... Z28 won't be faster than a Vette... so "World Beating" is a bit of a stretch...

Assuming it will share a verison of Corvette's powertain, slightly detuned, is to be expected.

It should be the Bang For The Buck leader again... but I doubt it will be a "World Beater" at a price around $25-$27k...

... and being a "World Beater" is Corvette's job anyway... not Camaro's.






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Darth Xed
1999 Camaro Z28
LS-1 6 Speed
Mods: Borla Cat-Back; Bridgestone Potenza RE730's; MTI Air Lid; Holley Power Shot; Flux-Capacitor

[Z284ever]

Well I guess I should clarify myself...when I say "world beater" maybe I don't mean competing with Dodge Viper, Porsche 911 turbo or Maranella 550. But I do mean world class in chassis dynamics, fit and finish and refinement....and who knows maybe performance that can nip at the heels of those exotics.

Don't forget..I expect the performance bar to be raised for the C6....leaving room for the next Z/28 to have unprecedented performance in it's segment...and from the sound of things at "team Mustang"..it may need it.

[Darth Xed]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z284ever:
Well I guess I should clarify myself...when I say "world beater" maybe I don't mean competing with Dodge Viper, Porsche 911 turbo or Maranella 550. But I do mean world class in chassis dynamics, fit and finish and refinement....and who knows maybe performance that can nip at the heels of those exotics.

Don't forget..I expect the performance bar to be raised for the C6....leaving room for the next Z/28 to have unprecedented performance in it's segment...and from the sound of things at "team Mustang"..it may need it.</font>

Well, in these terms, I certainly agree with you 100%.




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Darth Xed
1999 Camaro Z28
LS-1 6 Speed
Mods: Borla Cat-Back; Bridgestone Potenza RE730's; MTI Air Lid; Holley Power Shot; Flux-Capacitor

[RiceEating5.0]

Anybody read the 390hp cobra article in this months MT?