Can '06 Z/28 run with these bad boys......

Z284ever · 06-22-2002, 12:50 AM

One of the Ford magazines tested an '03 Cobra, an '03 Mach 1 and for good measure, a '02 BMW M3 in the quarter mile.....they ALL ran in the 12s!

What motor will Chevy give the next gen Z/28 (without stepping on the C6s toes) to run with these bad boys???

Aeromaks · 06-22-2002, 12:59 AM

I will settle for a Blown LS1 or LS6

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ponchoV8 · 06-22-2002, 01:51 AM

If they give the upcoming C6 an even stronger motor than the current Z06, GM could always carry the current LS6 over into the next Camaro, plus it would save on developmental costs. I think 405hp would easily put a lighter, next-gen F-bod well into the 12's.

guionM · 06-22-2002, 02:18 AM

For some reason, I'm getting a feeling that the LS6 or some parts of it may end up in the GTO putting it in the 12s. If GTOs can do it, any future Z28 should as well.

Z28Wilson · 06-22-2002, 02:30 AM

I don't see GM using a new motor in the C6 while giving the next Camaro the LS6 as a "hand-me-down". This isn't the way it's done these days. It's cheaper to simply, ahem, "de-tune" the latest Vette powerplant for use in other applications than to keep building 2 completely different V8's. Just look at the jump from the LT1 to LS1.

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BadIroc · 06-22-2002, 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by ponchoV8:
If they give the upcoming C6 an even stronger motor than the current Z06, GM could always carry the current LS6 over into the next Camaro, plus it would save on developmental costs. I think 405hp would easily put a lighter, next-gen F-bod well into the 12's.

Agreed, even the 4th gen LS1's now with a couple simple bolt ons can get into the high 12's easy, and then can run low to flat 13's all day long. interesting to wait and see, what ever the C6 will get it'll be interesting what the F5 will get, hell even the GTO might get a detuned vette motor as well hmmmmmmm

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Z284ever · 06-22-2002, 09:49 AM

Yeah, it will be interesting to see how Chevy steps up to the plate on this.

BTW...it's only a matter of time before people start swapping pulley/exhaust/chip on '03 Cobras and routinely start running ELEVENS!!!! YIKES!!!!

Darth Xed · 06-22-2002, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Z28Wilson:
I don't see GM using a new motor in the C6 while giving the next Camaro the LS6 as a "hand-me-down". This isn't the way it's done these days. It's cheaper to simply, ahem, "de-tune" the latest Vette powerplant for use in other applications than to keep building 2 completely different V8's. Just look at the jump from the LT1 to LS1.

Z28Wilson is right on the money! It would be impracticle for GM to run 2 lines of engines, when one will do...

I like the idea of seperate engines, but I doubt the costs would make it even a consideration.

Antz97ZNJ · 06-22-2002, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Z284ever:
One of the Ford magazines tested an '03 Cobra, an '03 Mach 1 and for good measure, a '02 BMW M3 in the quarter mile.....they ALL ran in the 12s!

What motor will Chevy give the next gen Z/28 (without stepping on the C6s toes) to run with these bad boys???

Incase u havent heard they stop making fbodies and there no plan in the new future of them bringin them back

Z284ever · 06-23-2002, 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by Z28Wilson:
I don't see GM using a new motor in the C6 while giving the next Camaro the LS6 as a "hand-me-down". This isn't the way it's done these days. It's cheaper to simply, ahem, "de-tune" the latest Vette powerplant for use in other applications than to keep building 2 completely different V8's. Just look at the jump from the LT1 to LS1.

I also agree here. I can see the C6 with a Gen IV smallblock of about 6.4 liters (LS7?)...with the Z/28 getting a 6.0 liter version.

kizz · 06-23-2002, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Darth Xed:

It would be impracticle for GM to run 2 lines of engines, when one will do...

I like the idea of seperate engines, but I doubt the costs would make it even a consideration.

Meanwhile, the current Silverado / Sierra gets one V6 and FIVE, yeah FIVE V8 options... what a crock.

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Z284ever · 06-23-2002, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by kizz:
Meanwhile, the current Silverado / Sierra gets one V6 and FIVE, yeah FIVE V8 options... what a crock.

I'm one of those who would just love to see more powertrain variety in the next Camaro.

Right now Ford has 3 V8s in the Mustang, (really 4 if you include the auto and 5 speed versions of the 4.6 in the Mach 1).

How cool would a Camaro be with the choice of 3 or 4 V8s!

Darth Xed · 06-23-2002, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by kizz:
Meanwhile, the current Silverado / Sierra gets one V6 and FIVE, yeah FIVE V8 options... what a crock.

Do the math... How many Silverados / Sierra are sold... how many Camaros / Firebirds are sold?

Things make a little more sense when you look at it realistically...

Z284ever · 06-23-2002, 07:22 PM

This is sort of a ..."what came first, the chicken or the egg" argument.

The Mustang, which is good for about 150,000 units a year has four different engines.

Is that because it can, since it sells so many more units than the F body....or is having so many choices one of the reasons it sells so many more units than the F body?

Z28Wilson · 06-23-2002, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Z284ever:
This is sort of a ..."what came first, the chicken or the egg" argument.

The Mustang, which is good for about 150,000 units a year has four different engines.

Is that because it can, since it sells so many more units than the F body....or is having so many choices one of the reasons it sells so many more units than the F body?

Mustang sold well when it was just V6, GT, and Cobra. These special editions aren't going to make a huge difference in sales numbers. I honestly don't think the 4th Gens would've sold a ton more if there was a "base V8" car, especially in the last few years.

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Lone Mods--LPE CAI, !Lapeer Dragway.
(Hey, I'm a college boy I can't afford gobs of bolt-ons!)

Best time: 14.658 @ 95.1
with SES light on and Driver off! (First and only time at track)

The F-body will NEVER die.