Flight Sim guys, who plays what?

[Malice 1]

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664642

This thread got me thinkin', with an awsome set of flight controls like that, who plays what?

My main game is MS flight sim 2004. I used it often during flight school because it has very accurate scenery. Bridges, towns, towers, etc.. are all in the right places. The graphics aren't perfect, but they are good enough. It was great for practicing low levels, and intrument procedures.

All the aircraft included in the game pretty much suck. I download military aircraft from SIMVIATION, but that site is a total rodeo. Some of the aircraft are decent, and others are awful. It's hard to find a good cockpit panel for a fighter. My favorite DL is the T45, because it has semi-realistic performance, and the cockpit is very funtional. It's sorta similar to a T45A.

This game would be stellar if I could find a realistic HARRIER DL with a good panel. I have found nothing of the sort though.

My second favorite game is FALCON: allied force.

It's a manned up version of the old FALCON 4.0. It is the most realistic combat sim I've ever played, and the graphics are pretty good considering it's age. The biggest downfall is that the game only officially supports the F-16. There is a user created expansion called REDVIPER, which has a harrier. I can't get it to work on my system yet though.

[MustangEater82]

honestly I just downloaded an add on for FS 2004, and I am 90% sure they had a harrier in it.

I just downloaded it, I picked up a cheapy stick, nothing as cool as the one in the first post I made.

I jsut recently heard we have a bad ass room of simulatators I am allowed to use on campus, I need to check it out.

[MustangEater82]

I haven't had time to install any of the planes but in the military folder they had this... and I couldn't even post all of them.

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FS2004 BAe Harrier FA2 Royal Navy Package. This download depicts the FA2 version of the sea harrier. it comes in 9 different loadouts and includes 5 different textures. It also has a superb 2d panel and basic VC. Panel bitmap by Phil Perrott also thanks to Eric MARCIANO for the Radar and HUD. Aircraft by Matthew Ivey and UKMIL. 23.2MB
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FS2004 USAF F-1 390th FS at Mountain Home Textures only. This download represents a Lockheed Martin F-16 painted in the colours of the 390th FS at Mountain Home . Requires Kirk Ollson F-16 here. UKMil. 4.1MB
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FS2004 BAC Strikemaster Mk.82A "G-SOAF/425" Textures only. This repaint represents Strikemaster G-SOAF/425. 425 was the last Strikemaster and was originally destined for Sudan before an arms embargo stopped the shipment of ten Strikemasters after three had been delivered. In 1984 the Sultan of Oman's Air Force lost a Strikemaster due to an accident and ordered a replacement from BAe. 425 was ferried to Oman in 1986 and it served with 1 Sqn at RAFO Masirah alongside other SOAF Strikemasters. 425 left service in 1999 and was acquired by North Wales Military Aviation Services in 2004. After recieving the civilian registration of G-SOAF the aircraft is now seen frequently at UK airshows. Requires Rick Piper's Provost here By Chris Halpin of UKMIL 1.1MB
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FS2004 T-45C Goshawk Night Trainer Textures only. Required the DSB Goshawk here. Jeff Smith. 1.4MB
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FS2004 Tornado RAF 43 SQN ZG757 in new 2006 Second Addition modified Anniversary Textures only. T this is the 90th anniversary scheme as worn by 43 sqn in 2006. Requires the DSB Tornado here. UKMil. 1.4MB
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FS2004 BAe Harrier FRs1 Royal Navy Package. This download depicts the FRs1 version of the sea harrier. it comes in 8 different loadouts and includes 7 different textures. It also has a superb 2d panel and basic VC. Panel bitmap by Phil Perrott also thanks to Eric MARCIANO for the Radar and HUD. Aircraft by Matthew Ivey and UKMIL. 20.1MB

Patch: this patch fixes a minor bug in the orginal file, and also includeds the documentation that was ommited
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FS2004 Hunting Jet Provost MK5 Transair Jet Provost team G-BWEB Textures only. This is now a privatly owned Jet Provost Mk5 in ETPS colours, as flown by The Transair Jet Provost team Requires Rick Piper's Provost package here. UKMIL. 1.6MB
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FS2004 Grumman F-14D Tomcat Rev 3 Flight dynamics, Sound (V 10-07) & Custom Panel Flight dynamics, FDE rework by Ivan Kostic. Aircraft perfectly controllable & maneuverable within the whole original Tomcat's flight envelope. Sound, rework of Scott Printz's HUD_Hornet.XML for HUD development for the F14D and aircraft.cfg original by Ivan Kostic. Panel.cfg REV 3 by Steve Hinson. Original main panel base.bmp by Frank Elfert. RIO panel by Randy Shoemake, one copy authorized for my use by the author, Randy, for my help given to Randy towards the rework of the Ultimate Tomcat F14Bv3 by ProsoftSimulation 7/3/6. Gmax model by Jeff Dobbings & Dino Cattaneo. Authentic Naval F14 Flight Checklist included inside DOCS with actual Weapons Loadout's and Carrier procedures. AS REAL AS ANYONE WILL GET THESE! US NAVY NAVAIR Manuals. UNCLASSIFIED. 75.1MB
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FS2004 Pilatus PC-7 Turbo Trainer Netherland Air Force 2006 Textures only. L-06 in the new black livery.The Pilatus PC7 Turbo Trainer originally flew on April 12 1966, this initial version was essentially a modified Pilatus P3 with a 550SHP PW&C PT6A-20 Turboprop, and failed to attract any sales until 1975 when the PC7 appeared with the PT6A-25 engine (of 650SHP) and a whole host of improvements. Since that time the PC7 has proven to be a capable trainer, and has since been superseded by the more capable PC9, and recently the PC-21, however the PC7 still continues to serve well in the training role of various air force's worldwide. This model has been fully constructed with FSDS v2.11 and it uses many common parts from my Pilatus PC9 Project . Textures only, requires original aircraft by David Friswell here . Repainted by Jean-Jacques Parel. 1.4MB
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FSX/FS2004 HS.780 Andover C1 RAF 46 Sqn Dark Cammo Thorney Island Textures only. Required Rick Piper's HS 748 Andover (here). Textures by Neil Angus. 3.8MB
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FS2004/2002 EADS MAKO. EADS is a joint enterprise of the airline industry such as France Germany Spain. (European Aeronautic Defense and Space Co.) As for MAKO, two types (the supersonic advance trainer type and the small multi role fighter type) are planned. Though small fighters such as F-5 and F-5E are expected to retire in these ten years or more service, MAKO is an airframe that it is efficient and the taking turning is good that installed the latest avionics of the Fly By Wire system etc. Production is expected from the end of the 2000's to the 2010's. And though the airframe that can be procured at this time is T-50/A-50 of the U.S. and South Korea joint development and Aelmakki M-346(YAK-130) etc., MAKO is more efficient than these and demonstrates mobility that oversteps Mig and the Mirage that became old-fashioned. Four kinds of models(3 of single seat type and 1 of Two seat type) are included. by Kazunori Ito. 3MB
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FS2002/FS2004 Saunders Roe SR-A1.SR-A1 was the world's first jet-powered flying boat. It had come into being as a result of Air Ministry Specification E.6/44, a wartime requirement for a high-speed fighter capable of operating from coastal waters in the Pacific theatre.Outwardly conventional in its appearance, the SR-A1 nevertheless embodied a number of features designed to result in an aerodynamically clean exterior with the minimum of drag-producing protrusions.By Kazunori Ito. 1.5MB
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FS2004/FSX Douglas B-66 Destroyer USAF. Used by the USAF and the USN (Navy A-3D Skywarrior). The USAF used it as a tactical bomber, and for photo and weather reconnaissance and electronic counter measures (ECM).\nModel created by Italo D'Attomo and Giovanni Quai.The model has been created with Abacus FSDS: it features very detailed moving parts, such as all flight controls, spinning wheels, rotating pilot's head on rudder command. The near photographic panel has been created from scratch, with reference to pictures found in the net. Included in this model there is also a very simple Virtual Cockpit, with working essential gauges and animated flight controls. Capt. I. D'Attomo Capt. G.Quai. 2.7MB
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FS2002/FS2004 - Lockheed C-5 Galaxy The Largest cargo aircraft of the United States, the C-5 Galaxy. This is my second release of this magnificent aircraft, now with all available options and accurate annimations of gears, pilots heads, leading edge flaps, annimated elevator trim, Dy- namic Shine, Virtual Cockpit, openning frt and rear cargo doors, reverse-thrusters rolling wheels and much more, it also inc- cludes a 2D panel created by Dave Haskell. FD by Gunther Kirshtein, model and textures by Rey Lopez. 6.2MB
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FS2002/4 UNS McDonald Douglas F4-II Phantom. The F-4 Phantom II was a twin-engine, all-weather, fighter-bomber. The aircraft could perform three tactical air roles air superiority, in terdiction and close air support as it did in southeast Asia. First flown in May 1958, the Phantom II originally was developed for U.S. Navy fleet defense and entered service in 1961.Powerplant: two 17,900-lb afterburning thrust GE J79-GE-17 Designed by: Rey Lopez. 2.7MB
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FS2002/4 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-31 Firefox. The first MiG-31 prototype rolled out of development in 1982. Designed as a high-altitude, high-speed interceptor, the Firefox incorporates a highly advanced avionics package and thought-controlled weapons system. The aircraft is revolutionary both in it's stealth airframe characteristics, as well as it's flight handling capabilities. Capable of speeds exceeding Mach 3.2, it has been long regarded as one of the fastest aircraft ever built. Carrying up to six AA-11 AAM's, R-23R or R-60 guided missiles, it has stand-off capabilities coupled with stealth characteristics making it a most formidable interceptor. Model created by: Owen Smoot - Textures created by: Kurt Beswick - Firefox website: www.oculusdesign.com/firefox. 10.4MB -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[GUTTERbOY]

Originally Posted by MustangEater82

honestly I just downloaded an add on for FS 2004, and I am 90% sure they had a harrier in it.

I just downloaded it, I picked up a cheapy stick, nothing as cool as the one in the first post I made.

I jsut recently heard we have a bad ass room of simulatators I am allowed to use on campus, I need to check it out.

Aren't you going to ERAU?

[MustangEater82]

Originally Posted by GUTTERbOY

Aren't you going to ERAU?

yep... I know there are cutting edge simulators there but we don't just have normal access, but I heard there is a room of older simulators that any student can walk into as a normal student and use.


I trip over a simulator of the wright brothers flyer almost daily between classes. Full machine you lay on and control.



The helicoptor simulator we have, the computer is down, but its a REAL helicoptor, I forgot the model, its small. But they cut the boom and rotors down, obviously has no motor but has a electric motor in it and all the controls down work. We can see what the pitch happens on the tail rotor blades and the action of the swashplate, when collective pitch and directional pitch is changed.

[GUTTERbOY]

The thing with Simviation is that it's all freeware stuff, which means that there's a large amount of stuff that's subpar. I've noticed that there's a pretty good correlation between file size and quality. The best bet is to find stuff that was originally payware but is now on the free market... the T-45 model is one of those. I just wish I could get the Goshawk to work right in FSX, because it's a hoot to fly.

[Envenomator1]

I run a Saitek X-52 stick and Saitek rudder pedals on Flight Simulator X. I have an awesome payware Harrier with some tweaking I've done on my own As well as quite a few other Military planes. I just clicked over 2300 hours flight time on FSX yesterday.

Here are a few videos of me flying with this set up:

MiG-29 Demo:
http://www.simteevee.com/watch.php?m...+Tactical+Demo

AV-8B Harrier:
http://www.simteevee.com/watch.php?m...aving+Some+Fun

F-22 Raptor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaRrAYQYpjU

[VladimirSteel]

this has always been my favorite flight game. I freaking loved it as a kid. I actually just downloaded it, but i dont have a stick so we will see if its as fun as it used to be...

[MustangEater82]

what would you say is a good amount?

I got my file off a bit torrent, not sure if it was payware, or is freeware.

[Envenomator1]

What's the name of the aircraft you downloaded? Simviation does have a few golden planes in among the craptacular. As mentioned I'd stick to ex-payware or the larger file sized aircraft considering the bigger the file usually means a better plane in the world of Flight Sim. I've even had to tweak about 80% of the payware planes I have to get them to "real" or semi-real flight dynamics. The AlphaSim F-22 Raptor I modified is a prime example of how much modding I had to do to it. Almost 15 hours of config changing and tweaking. But it's well worth it considering no one else has one that does what it can do now.

[GUTTERbOY]

Originally Posted by Envenomator1

The AlphaSim F-22 Raptor I modified is a prime example of how much modding I had to do to it. Almost 15 hours of config changing and tweaking. But it's well worth it considering no one else has one that does what it can do now.

Wanna share?

[Malice 1]

I would pay alot of money for a harrier file for FS2004 or FSX, but I would need to test it first to make sure it's perfect. I want the 2d cockpit to be EXACT for instrument flying, and I want the aircraft to have negative dynamic yaw stability, neutral roll stability, and a touchy throttle while in VSTOL flight. I want the HUD to look like a real hud.

I don't really care too much about conventional flight accuracy. Nothing is quite like having a man-sized handful of control stick which runs to 3000psi of hydraulic pressure control.

It would be great to get a harrier file for instrument and basic hover work.

I still want to get my FALCON: allied force bugs worked out, so I can use a harrier for tactical stuff. I don't think there is any way to get an SA-7 to shoot at you, or to drop ordnance in MS FS.

[Envenomator1]

Originally Posted by GUTTERbOY

Wanna share?

On that video I posted you can see what it can do I said I wouldn't release the version I created...but I can work on getting my skunkworks to the cz28.com community and no one else Let me see how much I can compress the file unless you have the model already? I could just send you the modified aircraft.cfg

Originally Posted by Malice 1

I would pay alot of money for a harrier file for FS2004 or FSX, but I would need to test it first to make sure it's perfect. I want the 2d cockpit to be EXACT for instrument flying, and I want the aircraft to have negative dynamic yaw stability, neutral roll stability, and a touchy throttle while in VSTOL flight. I want the HUD to look like a real hud.

I don't really care too much about conventional flight accuracy. Nothing is quite like having a man-sized handful of control stick which runs to 3000psi of hydraulic pressure control.

It would be great to get a harrier file for instrument and basic hover work.

I still want to get my FALCON: allied force bugs worked out, so I can use a harrier for tactical stuff. I don't think there is any way to get an SA-7 to shoot at you, or to drop ordnance in MS FS.

The Harrier I have on the video I posted is very stable in hover, however I had to hunt for some special things for it in order for there to be a true 0knt hover.

http://secure.simmarket.com/iris-harrier-2.50.phtml

That is the one I have, but with USMC repaints and some mods. It's based of the Harrier GR7, not really the AV-8B but the USMC paints make it look close.

[Malice 1]

Originally Posted by Envenomator1

On that video I posted you can see what it can do I said I wouldn't release the version I created...but I can work on getting my skunkworks to the cz28.com community and no one else Let me see how much I can compress the file unless you have the model already? I could just send you the modified aircraft.cfg



The Harrier I have on the video I posted is very stable in hover, however I had to hunt for some special things for it in order for there to be a true 0knt hover.

http://secure.simmarket.com/iris-harrier-2.50.phtml

That is the one I have, but with USMC repaints and some mods. It's based of the Harrier GR7, not really the AV-8B but the USMC paints make it look close.

I tried to get that one this morning, but there was no DL option for it. I'll pay for it, but I can't find a purchase button.

[Envenomator1]

Well some bad news I just did some searching and found out it's no longer available for some reason But if you torrent at all you can get it free.