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01-13-2009, 10:27 AM
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Am I the only one interested in an alternate fuel Camaro?
In the interest of keeping the Camaro around for many more generations I'd like to see a hybrid, electric, or alternate fuel powered Camaro.
If they made a Camaro with the Volt type powertrain that could be as fast as a V8 I would be all over it.
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01-13-2009, 10:37 AM
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no thanks.
you know, once we get these cars switched to electric or hybrids, the price of electricity is going to skyrocket. gas will go down electric will go up. theres no way to win. im telling you, after we get alot of "plug in cars" electricity is going to be a luxury to have.
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01-13-2009, 11:23 AM
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Maybe, but a market currently dominated by petrol burning cars is currently driving up the price of oil (overall not currently this minute). If there were more electric options we might see more reasonable gas prices.
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01-13-2009, 11:26 AM
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well of course you would. but you would see alot more prices on everything related to electricity go up.
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01-13-2009, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
In the interest of keeping the Camaro around for many more generations I'd like to see a hybrid, electric, or alternate fuel powered Camaro.
If they made a Camaro with the Volt type powertrain that could be as fast as a V8 I would be all over it.
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If performance were not compromised, yes. Although I think I'd prefer a hydrodgen fuel cell version. Heck I'd opt for a E-85 version, if only I could buy E-85 fuel in California.
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01-13-2009, 02:40 PM
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e85 is a joke too. they have it available but for me here i would have to drive almost an hour to the CLOSEST place to get E85.
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01-13-2009, 03:44 PM
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I'd like to see an E85 Camaro in the very near future. Nice racing fuel. 
I've seen reports on new ethanol sources...like algae...and it's damned impressive the amount of fuel you can get out of that stuff...
Anyways, I don't have any issues with a high-performing hybrid or electric Camaro. But I wonder if the costs to implement the hybrid system AND get it to perform well won't outweight any minor gas savins...so I can't say I'm "interested" in those options.
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01-13-2009, 04:10 PM
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well you have too look at the longevity of the system you are putting in the car too. if its an electric car, how long will the battery last? how long will the warranty last? and most importantly , how much will it cost to replace battery packs and electrical components after your warranty expires? because obviously people want the electric cars for the long term. so people probably will have them long after warranties expire. electric cars are NICE, but not practical. very expensive to repair and even maintain. just wait till all of these guys that bought prius' run into their battery problems after the warranties are up. those things will be all over the market because no one will have wanted to pay to repair them. so they will trade them in.
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01-13-2009, 06:58 PM
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It's weird, anyone from the metro Detroit area would love a E85 car, I mean nearly 1 out of 4 gas stations have ethanol on my way to work. I would love a flex fuel camaro but... without the badges.
I own a 07 impala flex fuel and its a charm, I'm not sure but I belive E85 is cleaner and better for the engine. And apparently it has a higher octane. Those look like all plus's. I think the only thing holding flex fuel cars back, is the lack of stations. But I'm not gonna lie filling up at $1.51 per gallon is great.
BTW flex fuel is soppose be less than a $1 by the following summer
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01-13-2009, 11:31 PM
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I have an 01 S-10 I drive for work. I've always wanted to try it to see how it is when comparing price to fuel economy (which I understand is less), but I have yet to see a station with E85 since I bought the thing in 2002.
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01-14-2009, 01:27 PM
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My Yukon seemed to get much worse mileage on E85.
I would be very interested in an electric or hydrogen power cell.
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01-14-2009, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
I would be very interested in an electric or hydrogen power cell.
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If it had decent range and performance wasn't compromised, I'm with you!
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1967 Camaro Coupe - 350HO/TKO-500 (Old Blue)
1967 Camaro RS - 327/PG (Goldie)
1995 Camaro Z28 - LT1/A4 (Norma Jean)
2002 Tahoe LS 2WD - LR4/A4 (The Big Red Truck)
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01-14-2009, 10:02 PM
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E85 has a lot of issues like rising food prices, substantial environmental impacts and decreased fuel mileage. Hybrids are more of a political statement than a good economic arguement. Pure electric? who knows. What I do know is that cars these days are very clean compared to a just a decade ago and I think gasoline will be around for many years to come.
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01-15-2009, 03:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pruettfan
E85 has a lot of issues like rising food prices, substantial environmental impacts and decreased fuel mileage.
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Food price impacts (however overblown the media makes them seem) are ONLY from foodcrop-based Ethanol, usually corn. There are other "makes-more-sense" alternatives for E85 that I don't expect corn to be the primary ethanol-crop for much longer. Environmental impacts are variable. Some of the better ethanol crops can potentially be good for the environment. Many are neutral. And decreased fuel mileage is something you have we'd have to live with. "Can't get something for nothing" as the saying goes. But if the fuel is inexpensive enough to not adversely effect your wallet...who cares?
And you're all right about the E-85 stations thing...it's the same here. I've got ONE in my area...but it's not for public use. It's tied up in an industrial park somewhere...
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01-15-2009, 10:19 PM
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The only alternate fuel I would want would be Diesel.
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