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08-22-2008, 01:04 AM
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Is the Camaro the first ever car where the auto is quicker?
Just wondering, I've never heard of another production car where the automatic was quicker from 0-60 and quarter mile. Fine with me since I was planning on getting an A6 anyway.
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08-22-2008, 01:34 AM
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kinda hard to say, those are just published numbers. I think the manual will be equal to it in the 1/4, but definetely slower 0-60 on average.
what were the LS2 GTO's published at?
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09-02-2008, 01:31 PM
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no, there are other cars that are the same way. im pretty sure the saturn sky redline is that way. your going to see more and more of that as automatic transmisions progress.
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09-02-2008, 01:49 PM
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i hear that new GT-R is faster in auto mode.
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09-02-2008, 09:38 PM
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Ferraris with paddle shifters lol. Also, the 93.5+ Supras were faster quarter mile cars with auto stock for stock. Obviously this doesn't really apply when you throw in drag tires and clutch dumping from high rpms.
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09-03-2008, 09:51 AM
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the gto's were quicker with auto
it seems that around the mid 13 second range is the equalizing point for where a stick starts getting beaten by an auto nowadays. anything quicker than that and its hard for someone to shift fast and accurately enough
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09-03-2008, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cjmatt
the gto's were quicker with auto
it seems that around the mid 13 second range is the equalizing point for where a stick starts getting beaten by an auto nowadays. anything quicker than that and its hard for someone to shift fast and accurately enough
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I dislike auto's on the street but for the track the automatic wins out.Why didn't Camaro ever think about a Turbo Edition even the Trans AM had a Turbo car year's ago
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09-03-2008, 05:29 PM
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Ask and you shall receive...
http://www.yenko.net/dealers/tzyenko.jpg
Number produced:
4 speeds: 0
Autos: 19
Total: 19
RPO #s ordered:
1FP87
Z-28 sport coupe This included a special ducted hood, special shocks/springs, HD stabilizer bars, dual exhaust, power disc brakes (front), and body colored 15x7" wheels with white-lettered tires. The base engine/trans for the Z-28 was the LG4 (305ci/165hp) and 4-speed wide range transmission. All '81 Yenko Camaros started out as Z-28 cars.
LM1 Engine, V8; (350ci/175hp) The 350ci V-8 was optional with the Z-28, but mandatory on all Yenko Turbo Zs.
Engine code:
D5B = automatic
MX1 Transmission, automatic; THM350c This was the mandatory transmission on the Z-28.
Rear end code:
PW = 3.08, posi
Transmission code:
Y1xxx = THM350c
Yenko options: Stage I T.I. Turbocharger, autmoatic transmission, Stage I wheels, Turbo Z graphics. The Stage I package was standard equipment on all '81 Yenko Camaros, but all factory options (except sunroof) are available, as well as any of the Stage II options..
Stage II Same as Stage I, plus: fully adjustable Kamp leather seats, leather competition steering wheel, Turbo Z special floor mats, Koni shock absorbers, modified stabilizer bars, modular wheels, and Goodyear Wing-foot tires. Along with the Stage II package, all factory options (except sunroof) were available.
http://www.yenko.net/dealers/TURBOZ.jpg
After the insurance companies and the oil crisis hit, Yenko's high performance department cooled off a little. In 1981, Yenko decided he needed another kick--the '81 Yenko Turbo Z. This car was the last car built as the dealership changed ownership.
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09-04-2008, 11:23 PM
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As a general rule of thumb automatics turn better et's but lower MPH when compared to a M6 in the quarter. Even still it's not usually a holy **** kind of difference.
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09-05-2008, 02:14 AM
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The good thing about auto is they are easier to launch and more consistent, the bad is that they don't handle as much power, get less gas mileage, and aren't quite as much fun. I've always had autos since my car is my dd.
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10-07-2008, 02:15 PM
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Keep in mind that I seriously doubt GM does its ratings while power-shifting their manual transmission models.
With a good driver, the stick should run with the auto.
ESPECIALLY in the case of the Camaro, where the stick has more power.
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10-08-2008, 07:37 AM
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The 05+ Mustang GT autos are faster than their stick equivalents down the drags I believe as well
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10-10-2008, 02:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaguar5822
The good thing about auto is they are easier to launch and more consistent, the bad is that they don't handle as much power, get less gas mileage, and aren't quite as much fun. I've always had autos since my car is my dd.
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I think the new auto Camaros will get the same gas mileage because of the active fuel management.
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10-10-2008, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissedShift
Keep in mind that I seriously doubt GM does its ratings while power-shifting their manual transmission models.
With a good driver, the stick should run with the auto.
ESPECIALLY in the case of the Camaro, where the stick has more power.
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Yeah, I think most people would drive any car with an auto quicker than a stick and grannie shifting. The problem is that I broke my M6 twice in my Camaro SS while powershifting at the drag strip! Only autos for me from now on.
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10-10-2008, 02:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SubSolar0
Yeah, I think most people would drive any car with an auto quicker than a stick and grannie shifting. The problem is that I broke my M6 twice in my Camaro SS while powershifting at the drag strip! Only autos for me from now on.
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I broke my Auto twice on the street, so I switched to an M6... To me an auto is softer than a manual, by far...
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