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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 02:39 AM
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Kinda Disappointed in the Sumitomo HTRZII's

My 245/45R16 Fuzion ZR1's were wearing out so I got 17" rims fitted on the 275/45ZR17 HTRZII's. My friend who has them told me that they need to be worn in a little before they grab...maybe some kinda compound on them when new. So I drove them for about 200 miles and spun them for about 10 seconds, so I think they're broken in.

I just tried several launches (after a good 30 minute drive on the freeway at night) and they spun pretty easily. Seems like they didn't bite as well as the Fuzions of all tires! I just read that these Sumo's need to be heated up. I didn't spin them before the launches, maybe that was the problem. They definately spun longer from the dig than my old Fuzions did.

Still haven't really taken them hard on corners yet, but they do seem to grip good on corners.

Very quiet tires though...just like the Fuzions. No noise at freeway speeds.
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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What do you expect from a budget tire??? You tend to get what you pay for.
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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I have them. They feel like someone soaked them in oil and I'm driving in the rain and that's when it's a sunny summer day. In the rain they're a real mess.

They spin at will at almost any speed. I guess that's cool if you're into that. Maybe they would be a good drift tire. lol
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Funny thing is, quite a few folks I know who like to "race" swear by them. If it was THAT bad, they'd be the first ones throwing them in the trash. Maybe I'm running too much pressure in them...I have them at 34lbs. This is street driving, not track.
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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I usually run 32 psi front and 30 psi rear. Try that and see if anything improves.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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I've got htrz's (315/35) on my zr1's, they had about the same mileage the frist time I went to the track, and they spun like hell, now that they have almost 1000 miles on them, they grab much better, and mine do react to heating them up, pretty good too, so put some more miles on them and then see how they do, write down some notes now and then in another couple weeks try doing the same things and see if there's a difference.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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I know a couple local guys who love them, they say once you really heat them up they can cut some pretty god 60"s for street tires. One buddy was cuttin 1.8s on a stock stall
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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How long do you spin the tires before they're heated up? Having to do this, I can see how their tread life would suck!

I've gotta try their lateral grip on a big open road to see where the grip limits are.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Go to a track day or autoX, you'll find out about lateral grip.

Spin until smoke starts. Anything else is gratuitous.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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when I was at the track last, I think about 10 sec, and next time I'm gonna do a little longer and see what happens.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Sumitomo = overrated. 34lbs of air is too much air pressure to be "launching" with. And also if you were looking for something to race or launch with, why didnt you just go with a drag radial?
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowtie4life
when I was at the track last, I think about 10 sec, and next time I'm gonna do a little longer and see what happens.
Thats way too long for a street tire. With a street tire youre better off going around the water and just spin them real quick to get the dirt off them. When you heat a street tire up that long you make it "greasy" and your burnout becomes pointless.
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FivePoint7z28
Sumitomo = overrated. 34lbs of air is too much air pressure to be "launching" with. And also if you were looking for something to race or launch with, why didnt you just go with a drag radial?
Cause DRs breaks stuff
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TAEnvy
Cause DRs breaks stuff
Catch 22.
Old Nov 15, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Cause DRs breaks stuff
Really? I guess I'm just lucky then. Although being an A4 helps.



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