http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/news...r/jeep/j8.html

I hope the diesel comes state side.

 

Two things stand out, for something they want to be a military vehicle.
The undersized street tires with no all-terrian tread. The regualar wranglers and rubicons have bigger more agressive tires.
The 2.8 turbo only makes 158HP engine, what a dog.

 

Although the Hummers are going to be replaced by MRAPs, I suspect that the military is still going to need a smaller conventional rugged vehicle. MRAPs that I've seen make the Hummer look like a Mini Cooper.

For those that are wondering what an MRAP is.

 

The MRAP has a "Mad Max" look to it. It definitely makes a Humvee look small.

 

158 horsepower is a dog only in performance minded circles that aren't familiar with the needs of the military.

Military vehicles aren't about drag races or an obsession with high horsepower numbers. What matters is can it survive extreme use and abuse and not miss a beat, can it run on JP8, has a relatively high payload, and can scoot along pretty well. High power means less durability and longevity, not to mention excessive fuel useage.

This Jeep has a payload of 7700 pounds, which is extremely impressive for it's size. The Cougar MRAP has 330 horsepower, but it also weighs 32,000 pounds.... empty.

For the record, the military Humvee's base 5100 pounds (before equptment is added) is slung around by a 150 horsepower diesel, which makes the nearly 4000 pound, 158 horsepower Jeep a military hot rod, and very far from a "dog".

 

Really? I thought they used to drag race the Enterprise against the other ships in the taskforce?

 

Cool looking Jeep.

 

Those can be easily changed to fit the situation.

You got to look at the torque. Hummers don't make much more HP than that.

 

Exactly! 295 ft-lbs from a 2.8L is impressive to me!

I hope that GM builds something to replace the HUMVEE/H1 using newer technology.

 

How long before someone buys the MRAPs brand and starts making civilian versions

It is odd that the MRAPs doesn't have the flat windshield like the Humvee. That is done so anyone flying over it doesn't spot the glare off the windshield.

 

You cant drive around bases in MRAP's. I assume that whatever Hummers they have, they will sell or destroy most of them, but retain some for basic base transportation, and other light duty roles.

 

Maybe I'm taking this part too seriously and missed the hyperbole, but are you saying a Humvee can run on JP8?

Edit - Well, apparently they can, but just not very well or for very long. Learn something new every day - http://www.allbusiness.com/public-ad.../228722-1.html

 

Maybe they figured it was a moot point. It would be difficult for someone flying overhead NOT to spot a truck as big as an aircraft carrier.

 

these are going to be sold to other military's jeep has been selling long wheel base wranglers overseas to saudis and pakistanis for years

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMMWV_replacement_process