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View Poll Results: What engine would you rather see?
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7.0---427!
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6.2 S/C
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02-19-2007, 10:08 PM
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7.0 or 6.2 S/C
If you had your choice--would the top engine Camaro be--the 7.0 or 6.2 S/C?
I'd take the 7.0--aka 427. It has heritage and cache. I mean Ford has to S/C there V8s to get them to go----Gm has never had to!  Why start now?
Add VVT and DI to the 427--get the costs down and drop her in, GM!! Yeah I know it's not gonna happen
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02-19-2007, 11:15 PM
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I voted for the supercharged 6.2. Today's superchargers are far more liveable in real world conditions, and the LS7 is reported to be DOA by the time Camaro returns.
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02-19-2007, 11:22 PM
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7.0/427 FTW N/A All The Way!
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02-20-2007, 12:49 AM
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6.2 supercharged baby, which would mean forged internals from the factory which is a good thing
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02-20-2007, 07:48 AM
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I would definitely take the supercharged engine. A pulley swap and tune will lead to some very nice results.
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02-22-2007, 08:47 AM
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Size matters  .
Do you want 6.2 on viagra, or 7.0 going strong, all natural?
Ok, but seriously, I like the ring that 427 c.i. has to it  . And I don't care if "the LS7 is dead after '08" or whatever. Just because a 3-letter designation is done, doesn't mean that displacement can't be used again  . How many designations did the 350 SBC have over it's life?!  Way too many to list!
Give us an LS7 derivative ... not "THE" LS7 ... just the same long block. The dry sump system can go ... a traditional oil pan will suffice  . It has all the same outer dimensions as an LS1/2/6, so there's no issue FITTING it in the car. And if it's MASS produced vs. limited build like the current C6Z, then the cost shouldn't be much more (unless they stick with the titanium internals, which again, could be substituted for cost purposes, if necessary).
That's my $.02  .
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1993 Z28: Road Race car - LT1/T56 - SoloSprint #95 - Goes, Blows, Goes and Blows.
1973 Camaro: Dad's - 355, TH350, 4.10's.
1981 Z28: 383 c.i., TH350, 3.42's - sold August, 2000.
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02-22-2007, 09:09 AM
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I tend to come fromt he school of "pure displacement over force fed air"; however, if the numbers that people are speculating do turn out to be true with the 6.2, then 600+HP would be hard to argue with regardless of how you get the result. Odds are if i were to buy either option (which I have no intentions of doing anyway) I wouldn't mod either of them anyway, so I would prefer the option with the highest initial HP.
Personally, I would like to put 625HP on the cowl instead of 427ci.
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02-22-2007, 09:31 AM
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Well the 7 litre is nice but if I can have similar power form a cheaper motor and make a simple pulley swap to add another 50-100hp I'll take the 6.2 supercharged, can't do that with a naturally aspirated engine without a lot of money. Plus the 7 liter is already running really high compression so no aftermarket supercharger without changing pistons.
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02-22-2007, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capn Pete
Give us an LS7 derivative ... not "THE" LS7 ... just the same long block. The dry sump system can go ... a traditional oil pan will suffice  . It has all the same outer dimensions as an LS1/2/6, so there's no issue FITTING it in the car. And if it's MASS produced vs. limited build like the current C6Z, then the cost shouldn't be much more (unless they stick with the titanium internals, which again, could be substituted for cost purposes, if necessary).
That's my $.02  .
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If they could mass produce the now handbuilt LS7 minus the dry sump system that would be a different story altogether. However as they are moving towards the S/C 6.2L motor for the Vette, having a similar motor that can be massed produced alongside it will go along way to reduce production costs.
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My Current Chevys:
1967 Camaro Coupe - 350HO/TKO-500 (Old Blue)
1967 Camaro RS - 327/PG (Goldie)
1995 Camaro Z28 - LT1/A4 (Norma Jean)
2002 Tahoe LS 2WD - LR4/A4 (The Big Red Truck)
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02-22-2007, 10:18 AM
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427
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Originally Posted by Jesse James
Just like word association for me, someone says running from the cops and the first word that popped into my head was CAMARO! 
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02-22-2007, 10:53 AM
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I feel like the debate over S/C 6.2 vs. N/A 7.0 is fairly easy to solve. Do a quick search of these boards and find out what kind of respect the 04 Mustang Cobra gets. That thing puts out over 550 RWHP with a tune, exhaust, and simple bolt-ons. You never even have to change the cams or heads. That's from a 4.6 OHC motor.
Our motor has about 95 more cubic inches, and is a platform that has made more HP per CI than Ford motors since about 1955. Okay, okay, I exaggerate... but you get the point. We definitely whoop ass HP per CI on the modular NA 4.6/5.4.
If we get a blown small block from the factory, we could seriously be looking at 700 Rear Wheel Horse Power for the cost of the car plus about $2500 to $3000, and that's if you pay someone to install the exhaust.
How many of us would like to buy a car, spend less than 10% of the purchase price in mods, and be able to absolutely destroy almost anything on the road? There isn't a Mustang out there that's anywhere near stock that could compete with that, not even their "Terminator".
Hell, most Ferrari's, Porsche Turbo's and SL65's would have trouble competing with that.
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02-22-2007, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 8cylinders>4
6.2 supercharged baby, which would mean forged internals from the factory which is a good thing
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and a rear that would hold it together
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02-22-2007, 02:13 PM
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i'd have to say the 6.2, i like the idea of adding lots of horsepower cheaply, considering the price we will pay for the car in the first place
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02-22-2007, 02:17 PM
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How about a 2.2 VTEC Turbo instead?
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02-22-2007, 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by km9v
How about a 2.2 VTEC Turbo instead? 
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You think you're so cool, don't you??
How about a Type- R sticker while you're at it?!??!
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2002 Z28: M6, 3.73's, Strano Suspension (HP3) - Goes, Turns, Stops, and even Flies.
1993 Z28: Road Race car - LT1/T56 - SoloSprint #95 - Goes, Blows, Goes and Blows.
1973 Camaro: Dad's - 355, TH350, 4.10's.
1981 Z28: 383 c.i., TH350, 3.42's - sold August, 2000.
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