Who's in for a V6 performance package?

[Z284ever]

This came up in the other monster Z/28 thread, but I think it's worthy of discussion on it's own.

Anyway, I'd be all for a V6 performance package. It'd have to be high value though, if it costs too much, might as well pop for the next level V8. Let's say $500 or less on the base car. Call it Y87, F41, whatever.

What could we expect for that? Certainly a retuned suspension, less restrictive exhaust, (probably just a different muffler), wheels?, retuned steering?

What else?

[V8 Slayer]

lsd

[CLEAN]

nitrous

[Joe K. 96 Zeee!!]

Stiffer stabilizer bars are an easy way to get a sportier feel out of a suspension without spending a lot of money.

I also like the idea of a different "sportier sounding" muffler, retuned steering, and whatever else you can throw in to help the suspension. It would be nice to have some badging as well. I doubt that there's much else you could do for $500.

A sport appearance package (with spoiler/ground effects and or wheels) could be separate.

[2000GTP]

Definitely some sort of intake and exhaust improvements. It would even be cool if they had a functioning cowl induction hood. An appearance package is a must in my opinion to distinguish it from the base model v6 car. But for a theoretical 500 dollars, I don't see a whole lot being added on.

[1995greenTA]

For 500 bucks?? Maybe some fake carbon fiber stickers on the interior pieces...Maybe itll make you think your in a race car?? Thats all your going to get for $500.00 from GM

[90rocz]

Eaton M90

[0toinsanein5.4sec]

suspension upgrades yes
but id has to have the numbers on paper to boot. at least 25 hp jump. maybe up displacement .1 or .2 liters. i think thatd be pretty good

[Z284ever]

How'd this get into the powertrain forum, this is more about suspension.

Anyway, 500 bucks is plenty. I can't remember what the 3rd gen F41 cost exactly, but I think it was something like 50 bucks, (maybe even abit less). It consisted of stiffer springs, shocks, bigger anti-sway bars, quicker steering ratio and some small stiffening braces. Quite the bargain, I'd say. The whole package was put together by the chassis engineers in one day, according to Michael Lamm's book. After they had developed the suspension tunes for Base, Berlinetta and Z/28 - they simply split the difference between Base and Z/28 for the F41.

[Bayer-Z28]

An I6 w/ a hairdryer! I'd buy it!

[Z284ever]

I think some of you guys are missing the point. I'm really talking about an inexpesive package, for afew hundred dollars, that a bucks down enthusiast can add to his base Camaro.

If we're adding blowers, or turbos, or specific engines with slightly more displacement - cost wise, you might as well step up to a V8.

But If you can walk out of your local Chevy dealer, with near 300 hp, a six speed manual, upgraded brake pads, wheels/tires, firmed up suspension tune - for around $22,500 - $23,000, then we've got something.

[z28luvr01]

I think the 3.6L HFV6 is probably more likely than any high-value V6 based on what I've read here and on C&G. In fact, the case could be made that GM is phasing out the high value engines altogether. Whatever the engine, I'd be a huge proponent (and potential buyer) of a high-performance V6 package. For $500 let's opt for "go" instead of "show"...we shouldn't bother with appearance items like wheels/ground effects/etc. Leave that stuff for a separate package. In addition to your list, Charlie, I might add a higher rear end ratio for quicker "launch feel" (to use GM-speak).

[DAKMOR]

I'm all in for a performance 6 cylinder Camaro.
But seriously, $500? One of the rarer colors for a Corvette costs that much.
And that's just paint!!!

What we have to define is where this model belongs in the lineup.
Base....All Options Base....SS/Z28base....All options SS/Z28

obviously the base of the Camaro will most likely be a V6, so between base and all options base seems about right. But that doesn't show performance or dollar values.

I'd say it'll probably be a fair $1000 option for enough upgrades to make it fairly competitive with other V6s out there.

[Z284ever]

Originally Posted by z28luvr01

I think the 3.6L HFV6 is probably more likely than any high-value V6 based on what I've read here and on C&G. In fact, the case could be made that GM is phasing out the high value engines altogether. Whatever the engine, I'd be a huge proponent (and potential buyer) of a high-performance V6 package. For $500 let's opt for "go" instead of "show"...we shouldn't bother with appearance items like wheels/ground effects/etc. Leave that stuff for a separate package. In addition to your list, Charlie, I might add a higher rear end ratio for quicker "launch feel" (to use GM-speak).

Yeah, I'm guessing that the HV V6 won't be making it into the Camaro either. Here's some fun facts: the HFV6 is literally factory prepped for a turbo or supercharger, with it's forged bottom end, and piston oil squirters. If someone can crack the computer codes, the motor is built to take almost 400 hp.

And If I were GM, I'd already be developing a certified, dealer installed, blower or turbo kit for the V6 Camaro.

[5thGen]

I just hope for a low priced base manual V6 that will be a good starting point for companies looking to upgrade the performance of the 6 and 8 (like mine). Base interior, base stereo, a/c power windows...... >22k.....

Let's say the V6 is 250hp, but is boost friendly up to say 14lbs (I know it is very wishful thinking, but why not). That along with additional fuel delivery wil make it capable of 500 hp. Even if it is not 14lbs ready, developing a set of Forged pistons might not be out of reach for some companies.

But now let's say the Mustang V6 gets the 3.5L duratec rated at 250 hp, Chevy will probably bump up the Camaro V6 a few more. Considering the 1993 Z had 275 hp, a 265 hp 6 would be awesome. Then I'd boost it still.

Man I can't wait.