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11-10-2006, 10:32 PM
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replacing fuel lines
ok, long story short. tried to weld on SFC's and caught fuel line on fire. just enough to put pin hole in it. scary moment for a few minutes. i can see where there is a connection under the car. but, where it goes up the fender does it go all the way to the engine or is there a connection somewhere hiding? how difficult is it to swap out? is the connection under the car the same as the "quick connect" fitting near the fuel rail? thanks for all help.
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11-10-2006, 10:42 PM
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It's one piece from under the front seat to the intake fuel rail.
You are lucky your car did not burn to the ground. I have seen pictures of ones that have from doing the very same thing. 
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11-11-2006, 09:51 AM
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your right shoebox. god was definately taking care of the idiots. haha. i guess i will remove the fuel line and then weld. i guess the line just feeds through with minimum  effort, right?
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95 firebird formula LT1 ,m-6, pacesetter coatedLT's w/ ORY,no cat, msd wires, msd coil, tb bypass, descreened MAF, tb airfoil, hypertech 160* therm. and CAI. Madz28 tune,flowmaster muff., slp short shift., granatelli welded SFC's, STB, 1le elbow, 1le front sway bar, 1le rear sway, umi lca's and umi panhard bar.
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11-11-2006, 10:04 AM
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Just an idea. But if the line is only damaged in one spot , you could cut ou the damaged area (only an inch or so I assume) and install a compression fitting of the correct size to connect the lines back together.
I use them in air ride systems all the time and the lines are simular.
Re'
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11-11-2006, 02:09 PM
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i wondered if i could just repair the area. it is a plastic feeling hose. right now it has a piece of intertube with a hose clamp. it is not leaking but i dont know how long it will hold. re and cheryl, you say you can cut the hose and place a comperssion fitting? ill look into that. not real crazy about replacing the entire line. thanks for the idea.
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95 firebird formula LT1 ,m-6, pacesetter coatedLT's w/ ORY,no cat, msd wires, msd coil, tb bypass, descreened MAF, tb airfoil, hypertech 160* therm. and CAI. Madz28 tune,flowmaster muff., slp short shift., granatelli welded SFC's, STB, 1le elbow, 1le front sway bar, 1le rear sway, umi lca's and umi panhard bar.
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11-11-2006, 03:37 PM
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Repairing the damaged nylon hose is not recommended by the service manual. A potential leak in an air line is a little different than a fuel line. 
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11-11-2006, 11:55 PM
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gotcha shoebox  going to dealer monday. i assume you can buy just one line and not have to buy all 3 as a set. they seem to be different sizes.
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95 firebird formula LT1 ,m-6, pacesetter coatedLT's w/ ORY,no cat, msd wires, msd coil, tb bypass, descreened MAF, tb airfoil, hypertech 160* therm. and CAI. Madz28 tune,flowmaster muff., slp short shift., granatelli welded SFC's, STB, 1le elbow, 1le front sway bar, 1le rear sway, umi lca's and umi panhard bar.
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11-12-2006, 12:08 AM
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No, they come as a set. They are not too expensive.
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11-12-2006, 05:46 AM
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Its not woth repairing it. I damaged mine once by accident while I was working on my car. The entire piece from the connectors under the car to the engine was only $70. That was 3 years ago, but I bet its still under $100 for the whole thing.
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11-12-2006, 08:48 AM
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$70?
Even now, they only list for $26.99 and wholesale is $16.00. Maybe that was $70 installed?
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11-12-2006, 10:25 AM
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Are we talking about the same part here? I'm talking about both supply, return and EVAP hard plastic lines from the motor, into the wheel well and down to the connector under the car.
Its also possible I got ripped by my local dealer I was in dire need of them and that was the best price I could negotiate at the time  . I didnt know how a dealer worked back then and i probably could have gotten it cheaper but I didnt think it was under $30!!! man did I ever get raped...
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Brian's 96' Red Z:
LT4 355, 263/270 .686"/.674" 112 SR
Eagle crank, 6"rods, TFS 220cc heads by TEA, LT4 intake, CPT 4L60E
Yank ST4000, Moser 12 bolt, 4.30's and a spool
401 RWHP, and counting...
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11-12-2006, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shoebox
$70?
Even now, they only list for $26.99 and wholesale is $16.00. Maybe that was $70 installed? |
yeah, thats what5 they were the last time I checked
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11-12-2006, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shoebox
$70?
Even now, they only list for $26.99 and wholesale is $16.00. Maybe that was $70 installed? |
Might depend on the model year vehicle. Mine was $70 or $80 bucks, but my car is a 1993 model year (where GM did everything slightly different from all the other model year LT1s...)
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11-12-2006, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave89IROC
yeah, thats what5 they were the last time I checked
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what? $70 or $25?
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Brian's 96' Red Z:
LT4 355, 263/270 .686"/.674" 112 SR
Eagle crank, 6"rods, TFS 220cc heads by TEA, LT4 intake, CPT 4L60E
Yank ST4000, Moser 12 bolt, 4.30's and a spool
401 RWHP, and counting...
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11-12-2006, 01:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectz28
what? $70 or $25?
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$25-$30
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