M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
I have been doing some research about what I should use, but am still not convinced of either one. I currently have a m6 in my 96Z and love to go through gears, but when my motor and everything else is put on the car that will be a different story. I do plan on geting a tranny to hold well over the power aloted, but still dont know which way to go. It seems to me that not many people are very successfull with a m6 (besides Tanner) when they have high hp out put and go to the strip very often.
So what tranny is suggested, and why?
So what tranny is suggested, and why?
Re: M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
I'd have to lean towards either a TH400 or a 4L80E if you want the option of overdrive for street use?
If you really will have power that high, I think the TH400 is the only tranny that's "tried, tested, and true" to hold up to that severe amount of abuse?
Unless you went with an AFTERMARKET type standard (Richmond or something??
).
But with a good, heavy duty stall converter, WELL built TH400, I think that would be the best 1/4 mile setup for ~700 RWHP
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If you really will have power that high, I think the TH400 is the only tranny that's "tried, tested, and true" to hold up to that severe amount of abuse?
Unless you went with an AFTERMARKET type standard (Richmond or something??
).But with a good, heavy duty stall converter, WELL built TH400, I think that would be the best 1/4 mile setup for ~700 RWHP
.
Re: M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
Overdrive means a gear ratio in which the transmission output shaft rotates more than once for each rotation of the input shaft. For instance, 6th gear on an M6 F-body is a 0.50:1 ratio, meaning that the output shaft rotates twice for each rotation of the input shaft.
The end effect is that the engine can be turning a reasonable RPM at highway speeds. To get an idea of what it would be like to not have overdrive, spend a few days driving your car without ever using 5th or 6th gear (both of which are overdrive ratios).
You'll use more fuel, the engine will be louder when you're cruising, you'll impart more wear on your engine due to higher RPMs, etc etc etc.
A TH400 is a three-speed transmission, and the highest ratio is 1:1, which is the same as 4th gear on an M6 F-body.
If I wanted to do an automatic drag car in the 700rwhp range, I'd be talking to Frank Cahall.
The end effect is that the engine can be turning a reasonable RPM at highway speeds. To get an idea of what it would be like to not have overdrive, spend a few days driving your car without ever using 5th or 6th gear (both of which are overdrive ratios).
You'll use more fuel, the engine will be louder when you're cruising, you'll impart more wear on your engine due to higher RPMs, etc etc etc.
A TH400 is a three-speed transmission, and the highest ratio is 1:1, which is the same as 4th gear on an M6 F-body.
If I wanted to do an automatic drag car in the 700rwhp range, I'd be talking to Frank Cahall.
Re: M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
TH400 is a proven way to go. We are giving the 4L80 a try in an upcoming project, and hopefully it won't disappoint us. We looked at the TH400 with the Gear Vendors kit on it but that was alot more expensive.
Last edited by Eric@Victory Racing; Oct 11, 2006 at 02:55 PM.
Re: M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
Frank Cahall (12SCNDZ on these forums) is the owner of Cahall Performance Transmissions, which the best 4L60E shop, period. CPT is a supporting vendor of these forums (as is Victory Racing Engines, and I certainly wouldn't be ignoring Eric's comments either -- VRE knows their ****). 4L60E is the transmission found in A4 fourth-gen F-bodies.
Gear Vendors sells an overdrive unit which mounts behind the transmission and adds an overdrive ratio to a transmission that doesn't already have one. Adding this to a TH400 would allow you a ratio around 0.75:1 (I don't know the exact overdrive ratio of the GV product), which is approximately the same as 5th gear on an M6 F-body.
Gear Vendors sells an overdrive unit which mounts behind the transmission and adds an overdrive ratio to a transmission that doesn't already have one. Adding this to a TH400 would allow you a ratio around 0.75:1 (I don't know the exact overdrive ratio of the GV product), which is approximately the same as 5th gear on an M6 F-body.
Re: M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
Originally Posted by GEAR VENDORS
At about 2400 dollars (depending on model) the GEAR VENDORS is not the cheapest way for you to get overdrive but is by far the best. A Gear Vendors will handle more horsepower, deliver bigger performance gains, give you guaranteed trouble-free performance, and install easier than any other overdrive available. A GEAR VENDORS will handle 1200+ horsepower reliably and is under warranty even at the dragstrip.
Originally Posted by jmh96z28
How much do the run for and what are gear venders. And who is Frank Cahall.
Re: M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
So Im kinda confused, is gear vendors a full tranny or just a add on part for a tranny.
Off topic, thanks Victor. You are my new hero. You have totally helped me with everything, and made my mind up on what Im going to do to my car. I should be contacting you about doind my motor very shortly.
Off topic, thanks Victor. You are my new hero. You have totally helped me with everything, and made my mind up on what Im going to do to my car. I should be contacting you about doind my motor very shortly.
Re: M6 or auto for 700 rwhp drag car
Because they are basically the only people to that kit, and allow TH400 user to retain overdrive. The other option being a 4L80, but you will need a controller for it which is an additional $600.00.


