So will there be a 500hp engine option?

[triggerjerk]

We know Lutz said one is available if necessary.
But, do you guys actually think GM will make one available in the
new camaro whether it be n/a, s/c or whatever?

[Jacoz35thSS]

I'm sure details will be coming out, but we will see about 300 threads until that happens. With the new Z06, or SS, or Stingray, or whatever it may open up HP levels for the Camaro. We'd be crazy to think the GM and Dodge are sleeping knowing the Shelby is already here and Ford isn't resting on its larels looking at '08 and '09 for the Mustang's competition.

[LandonElf]

Yea, i agree, the 500hp is definately coming in some way, shape, fashion or form. Only real thing to discuss is whether it will be supercharged or NA and how much it will cost.

chevrolet really doesn't have strong factory supercharger support nowadays. I can think of two cars in the past 10 years that have had one, and there hp ratings combined werent even 500hp.

My money is on a naturally aspirated V8, but i'm often wrong

[91_z28_4me]

Originally Posted by LandonElf

Yea, i agree, the 500hp is definately coming in some way, shape, fashion or form. Only real thing to discuss is whether it will be supercharged or NA and how much it will cost.

chevrolet really doesn't have strong factory supercharger support nowadays. I can think of two cars in the past 10 years that have had one, and there hp ratings combined werent even 500hp.

My money is on a naturally aspirated V8, but i'm often wrong

Currently in production:
Supercharged 4.4 N*
3800 SC
2.0 SC Ecotec

Upcoming Escalade 6.2 SC, modified from the one in the super Vette!

On the Turbo end there are lots of GMs to choose from but not to many SC motors, yet.

[CLEAN]

Yes

[IZ28]

Z28.

[2000WS6Vert]

You have to look at things from a business perspective. GM always reuses parts (ie, engines) across the line. LS1 went from Corvette to fbody. I don't see a supercharged V8 in use at the moment...plus that SC adds costs onto the base car.

So...the LS2 went from vette to GTO, SSR, CTS-V, etc.

So...unless there is a LS3 already available before the Camaro comes out...my money is the LS2 as it will still be in production in great numbers. It all boils down to re-using parts to keep costs down.

Now...the LS7 will be in production for the Z06 and the CTS-V and maybe a few other vehicles. If it's still being used in 2009 I'd say there's a good chance it could make it into the new Camaro if another company is still producing a 500 HP car.

What's interesting to note is that for some reason the GT500 is a low 12's mid teens car. If the Camaro keeps it's weight at around 3500# and the LS2 or equivalent is bumped up to 425-450 HP....that should be enough to keep up with the GT500.

I think the z28 or SS will run high 12's low teens stock and match the GT500 with very little mods.

We shall see....we have another year or two until GM releases all the details...but let the speculation begin.

[jbres79]

i hope so, the more HP the better.

[LandonElf]

Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me

Currently in production:
Supercharged 4.4 N*
3800 SC
2.0 SC Ecotec

Upcoming Escalade 6.2 SC, modified from the one in the super Vette!

On the Turbo end there are lots of GMs to choose from but not to many SC motors, yet.

Question, i thought the 3800 series engines have been all but killed off? I thought they only put the supercharged 3.8 into the previous Monte carlo SS model. So what are they being currently produced in?

[jg95z28]

Originally Posted by 2000WS6Vert

You have to look at things from a business perspective. GM always reuses parts (ie, engines) across the line. LS1 went from Corvette to fbody. I don't see a supercharged V8 in use at the moment...plus that SC adds costs onto the base car.

How about a historical perspective?

Today's LSx based motors all harken back to the venerable Chevy small-block V8. (GM even markets them as such.) And what is perhaps the most popular displacement of small-block of all time? That's right, the 350 cid. A little known fact (to all but diehard Chevy fans) is the first time a 350 cid small-block was ever used in a production Chevrolet was in the 1967 Camaro SS. In fact, in 1967 you could only get the 350 in a Camaro SS. Wouldn't it be cool to resurrect that with the new 2009 Camaro? What I'm suggesting is a modern LSx derivative V8 that is not available on any other GM model in 2009. No, I am not suggesting 350 cid (5.7L), I'm suggesting a unique powerplant to Camaro be it 6.2L, 6.4L, or whatever.

Secondly, I disagree about superchargers. While superchargers appear pricey on the surface, they are a cheap way to add horsepower when you have maximized all the juice you can get out of the same motor that is naturally aspirated. Adding 150-200hp via a supercharger to an already 400hp NA motor takes far less money to develop than trying to design a 550-600hp NA motor from scratch. Besides, if the supercharger is only used on the upscale V8 model, how can it possibly add costs to the base car?

[AZZKKER]

Originally Posted by LandonElf

Question, i thought the 3800 series engines have been all but killed off? I thought they only put the supercharged 3.8 into the previous Monte carlo SS model. So what are they being currently produced in?

i dont think they use the sc 3800 anymore but i could be wrong. they did use them as an option on almost every buick and big pontiac for years. also, the impala and monte got the option for a few years. for pontiac, they had the grand prix, boniville, buick had the park ave ultra and so forth, so the 3800 had big time support on eaton's side.

me i would prefer a turbo v8, but most likely we will get a sc v8 with a new gen eaton style on it. either way, id take both, and will order one when the it is available.

[ZsYellowSS]

The 500hp option will come out on something special (SS), or along those lines, so you will pay through the nose.

[rolltide]

Originally Posted by ZsYellowSS

The 500hp option will come out on something special (SS), or along those lines, so you will pay through the nose.

yes i will.

[AZZKKER]

indeed, thats why i am putting money back right now. by the time the car comes out i should have between $14,000 and $18,000 as a down payment

[91_z28_4me]

Originally Posted by LandonElf

Question, i thought the 3800 series engines have been all but killed off? I thought they only put the supercharged 3.8 into the previous Monte carlo SS model. So what are they being currently produced in?

Grand Prix GT uses the L67 still.