would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
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would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
We seen GM take a lot of cars to nurburgring to do suspension research. Now... i hope that GM does it to the Camaro.. and spend some time in there.. it would be a GREAT advertisement stunt.
The new CAMARO... suspension tuned on european grounds, porwertrain by american muscle, designed to take on the world.
there is an idea Scott, a simple
will do thought. lol
The new CAMARO... suspension tuned on european grounds, porwertrain by american muscle, designed to take on the world.
there is an idea Scott, a simple
will do thought. lol
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
I hope they do that.
I also hope they offer a package that will qualify for head to head F stock autocross competition. It appears the new Mustang has the F4 covered, and if the entry level V8 is the LS2, the F5 will probably end up in a tougher class.
I also hope they offer a package that will qualify for head to head F stock autocross competition. It appears the new Mustang has the F4 covered, and if the entry level V8 is the LS2, the F5 will probably end up in a tougher class.
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
I have no idea if they will, but I wish they would. We would be guaranteed pics and videos of it in development and action. I have been following the new CTS over there and it looks like it will be an improvement over the last model. I am hoping the CTS-V will taunt that 450-500hp level and make me think twice about getting a Camaro in 2008/9.
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
Originally Posted by jcamere94z28
The new CAMARO... suspension tuned on european grounds, porwertrain by american muscle, designed to take on the world.
Coming soon, to a Nissan dealer near you
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Executives at GM want to be able to ``stand up and say, `We're getting better and we don't need Nissan or Renault,''' said Dennis Virag, president of the Automotive Consulting Group Inc. in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Kerkorian, the fourth-largest owner of GM stock, has privately expressed dissatisfaction with the speed of turnaround efforts at GM, and he believes a three-way tie-up could restore long-term profits, a person familiar with his strategy said earlier this month.
Kerkorian, 89, controls 9.9 percent of GM's shares through his Tracinda Corp. He discussed the alliance with Carlos Ghosn, chief executive of Nissan and Renault, before formally broaching the subject June 30 in letters to GM, Renault and Nissan.
Nissan yesterday posted a 26 percent drop in first-quarter operating profit due in part to U.S. sales, which fell 11 percent in the period. Renault is set to report earnings tomorrow for the first half of 2006.
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
Personally, I would LOVE if GM put some serious R&D into the handling aspect of this car. What is the argument from peeps that don't dig on american muscle? That's right, 'You can go fast in a straight line, but, I'll kill you in the corners with my moms Corolla!"
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I bet LOTS of money that they will. Heck they tested the CTS, STS, VE cars, Cobalt SS, Ion Redline, and TB SS on it why not your full out muscle car that has been given more press than any product launch in history?!
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
Originally Posted by jcamere94z28
We seen GM take a lot of cars to nurburgring to do suspension research. Now... i hope that GM does it to the Camaro.. and spend some time in there.. it would be a GREAT advertisement stunt.
The new CAMARO... suspension tuned on european grounds, porwertrain by american muscle, designed to take on the world.
there is an idea Scott, a simple will do thought. lol
The new CAMARO... suspension tuned on european grounds, porwertrain by american muscle, designed to take on the world.
there is an idea Scott, a simple
will do thought. lolAlso, Camaro doesn't take on the world outside of our hemisphere. Unlike the Mustang, Corvette, and Viper, it hasn't been sold around the world. At the 75" width of the new one, it's not going to be sold around the world (save maybe Australia and the Middle East) as either. And who in the world is the Camaro going to take on?? BMW?? Mercedes?? It's going to be a fantastic handling American muscle coupe, but it's not going to be a Corvette Z06 on the track... the only car that actually does take on the world successfully.
As for it being an advertizing stunt, a stunt is something done just for publicity. Doing that for Camaro would be pretty lame IMO. The Camaro (like GM's other vehicles tested there) should be done to improve the car's handling dynamics.
I don't see Nurburgring being thrown around to sell Cobalt SS let alone the Z06 Corvette and CTSv. GM throwing around Nurburgring would be a pathetic way of selling Camaros.
Camaro should be sold based on it's abilities, due to the hard work of GM engineers on Camaro's IRS and component caliberations and structure rigidity, and not resort to something as cheesey as touting a particular track as a sales gimmick.
I strongly suspect Scott agrees.
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
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Do you really think they would do Cobalt SS, Corvette & Z06, Ion Redline, the CTS & CTSv, STS & STSv, and a whole host of other vehicles and not the Camaro or at least a version of it???
As for it being an advertizing stunt, a stunt is something done just for publicity. Doing that for Camaro would be pretty lame IMO. The Camaro (like GM's other vehicles tested there) should be done to improve the car's handling dynamics.
I don't see Nurburgring being thrown around to sell Cobalt SS let alone the Z06 Corvette and CTSv. GM throwing around Nurburgring would be a pathetic way of selling Camaros.
Camaro should be sold based on it's abilities, due to the hard work of GM engineers on Camaro's IRS and component caliberations and structure rigidity, and not resort to something as cheesey as touting a particular track as a sales gimmick.
I strongly suspect Scott agrees.
As for it being an advertizing stunt, a stunt is something done just for publicity. Doing that for Camaro would be pretty lame IMO. The Camaro (like GM's other vehicles tested there) should be done to improve the car's handling dynamics.
I don't see Nurburgring being thrown around to sell Cobalt SS let alone the Z06 Corvette and CTSv. GM throwing around Nurburgring would be a pathetic way of selling Camaros.
Camaro should be sold based on it's abilities, due to the hard work of GM engineers on Camaro's IRS and component caliberations and structure rigidity, and not resort to something as cheesey as touting a particular track as a sales gimmick.
I strongly suspect Scott agrees.
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
Originally Posted by guionM
At the 75" width of the new one, it's not going to be sold around the world (save maybe Australia and the Middle East) as either. And who in the world is the Camaro going to take on?? BMW?? Mercedes?? It's going to be a fantastic handling American muscle coupe, but it's not going to be a Corvette Z06 on the track... the only car that actually does take on the world successfully.
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
Originally Posted by guionM
Camaro should be sold based on it's abilities, due to the hard work of GM engineers on Camaro's IRS and component caliberations and structure rigidity, and not resort to something as cheesey as touting a particular track as a sales gimmick.
I strongly suspect Scott agrees.
I strongly suspect Scott agrees.
I personally don't see any better way than to accomplish the above statement, than to prove the car around a world-famous track that has recently become somewhat of a marker on which to judge the handling and performance of a car for the world to see.
If GM really wants to flaunt the IRS and handling of this car, and shove it in the face of Ford, who shelved their IRS in the Mustang, then they can expliot it at the 'ring.
GM needs to salvage the perception of what a Camaro is, and the trailer-park mullet wearing image can be put to rest quickly if the car handles as well as it goes in a straight line.
Of couse, I'm a big fan of European Cars as well having owned in the past 5 years an E36 M3 Dinan, E46 328Ci SP, Audi S4, and Lotus Esprit. Having been in those circles, I can assure you that many of that crowd would entertain the new Camaro if it was proven to be more than a stoplight racer. It certainly has the looks to draw those people, let's see if the rest of the package can seal the deal.
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Re: would GM take the camaro to nurburgring?
Guy, that sounds like the 1990's GM talking, to me.
Chevy already has an image with a Camaro name. It reaks of skany white trash trailers and mullets and a first cousin with wings. Its also been labeled a "straight-line-only" car even before it comes to life, IRS or no.
So why try to prove to the world that certian Camaros have always had some sort of handling capabilities when Chevy could ADD TO the image by testing the car at the 'Ring. And I dont mean a car like it... I mean a car with "CAMARO" in BIG letters on the quarters!
Let's show the World what we got!
Chevy already has an image with a Camaro name. It reaks of skany white trash trailers and mullets and a first cousin with wings. Its also been labeled a "straight-line-only" car even before it comes to life, IRS or no.
So why try to prove to the world that certian Camaros have always had some sort of handling capabilities when Chevy could ADD TO the image by testing the car at the 'Ring. And I dont mean a car like it... I mean a car with "CAMARO" in BIG letters on the quarters!
Let's show the World what we got!
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I am also glad to hear someone else talk about the handling!!!
This car BETTER out handle the old 4th Gen because they SUCK
My wife's Camary handles better.
Come on, we all know it WILL have plenty of power, but I want it to out handle most cars out there, and it should.
Chevrolet, with the 5th Gen, should get back into the SCCA Trans-Am
Racing!!! Come on Chevy
This car BETTER out handle the old 4th Gen because they SUCK
My wife's Camary handles better.
Come on, we all know it WILL have plenty of power, but I want it to out handle most cars out there, and it should.
Chevrolet, with the 5th Gen, should get back into the SCCA Trans-Am
Racing!!! Come on Chevy
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Originally Posted by mc63
I am also glad to hear someone else talk about the handling!!!
This car BETTER out handle the old 4th Gen because they SUCK
My wife's Camary handles better.
This car BETTER out handle the old 4th Gen because they SUCK
My wife's Camary handles better.
What did you have, 250,000 miles on your original shocks when you made the comparison? 