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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Just wondering what you all thought of the possible alliance between GM and nissan. what if any affect it might have on the camaro ?
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Well I have no idea, it would be cool to have the same specs for the Camaro z28 as the new GT-R. And all wheel drive would be nice.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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This is making me sick to my stomach! I can't take it. I would rather see GM and Ford, and that would be bad enough. I pray this does not happen. I hope kerkorian burns in hell for this ****! What a jackass.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Demon's Camaro
Well I have no idea, it would be cool to have the same specs for the Camaro z28 as the new GT-R. And all wheel drive would be nice.


Go jump off a cliff
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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People I urge you to boycott all tracinda products immediately! Anyone planning to stay at a mirage hotel & casino go somewhere else.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by StLounatic
Go jump off a cliff
My thoughts exactly.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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How many freaking Renault-Nissan love GM threads to we need?!? There's at least five of them in the appropriate forum for it.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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NO! that's it PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! If this happen's GM is ruined. Never will I look at any gm vehicle in the same respect I once did. AWD=CAMARO= NO GOOD!
GM has built so many awesome cars and trucks from the day it started. GM the company trying to buy into you is NISSAN is GM turning japanese on us? Don't let Nissan ruin your HERITAGE... which would be American pleaseee! FORD will have a continued sales from me with a new 2009 Mustang GT, if Nissan's influences flow into GM's new sport coupe design's.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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It's bad enough buicks are being made in China.
It's bad enough the GTO and Camaro will and are being made in Australia (no offense to Holden, but they're AMERICAN muscle cars)
It's bad enough I drive a custom import (Canadian muscle baby)
We don't need a Nissan GM alliance.

If Honda and Toyota can make Camry's, Accords and such in frickin' Ohio and wherever then GM can stay an American company.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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I'm against the whole idea, but it would not be the end of the world for me. The article was kinda confusing but from what i gather, GM is trying to actually acquire Nissan? Anyway, I'm gonna play devils advocate and list why it would not be a bad idea.

Okay, first off, Nissan has an image among young car buyers/tuners that rivals even honda and mitsubishi. Just saying the name "skyline" puts goosebumps on tuners kinda like "cobra" or "427" does for muscle car guys.

Second of all, Nissan may be imports, but they have some beautiful vehicles. The 350Z and its cousin infiniti's look GOOD. Also, there titans are pretty sharp looking and are some of the cheapest V8's you can get.

Third, Nissan's V6 technology is also a world leader. Not many company's can advertise about V6's putting out around 300hp, especially from sub 30K prices. This would be great technology to adapt to the camaro. Imagine how much R&D money would be saved.

Okay, my final point is one of a business case. Since the debut of the Cobalt, solstice, sky, aveo, g6, ions replacement, Pursuit,etc GM has been trying to get a part of the "sport compact" market away from the japanese. This would not only eliminate a major competitor for that market share, but also grab some nissan loyals and convert them.

From any point of view, I find it hard to beleive that GM would not make profit from an acquisition.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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My world is shattered. I would NEVER buy a Japanese car. I only drive GM. So now what the hell am I supposed to do? This SUCKS.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by christianjax
I would NEVER buy a Japanese car.
You bought a Japanese bike.

Originally Posted by CamaroRSguy
It's bad enough the GTO and Camaro will and are being made in Australia
Huh? Camaro isn't going to be built in Australia. Stop reading Automobile Magazine and pay attention!

Originally Posted by LandonElf
The article was kinda confusing but from what i gather, GM is trying to actually acquire Nissan?
No, it's the other way around. Nissan/Renault is interested in gaining a significant minority stake in GM, after the suggestion was made by Kerkorian's Tracendia group, which controls roughly 10% of GM's stock (I think it's 10). Think Daimler-Benz - Chrysler merger on a smaller scale.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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I cant see how you guys look at Nissan in the same light as Honda or mitsu?
It looks like you guys only look at "American Muscle" well look at the history of the 240Z i mean i dont think you guys know this but piror to 1970 the Corvette held the #1 selling 2 seater sport car in America than Datsun came out with the 240Z in 1970 and changed the sport car world! now fast foward to 1996 where they stoped making the 300ZX, and at that time in 1997 Cheve introduced the C5, the Corvette held the #1 selling 2 seater sport car till the yeay of 2003 Nissan came back out with the 350Z and took the tittle back, now being the #1 Selling 2 seater sport car in America!

First thing Z's get a ton of respect
Second Nissan can make a hell of a car.
(and yes my stock LS1 will smoke any stock Z) But i do love Z's
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
No, it's the other way around. Nissan/Renault is interested in gaining a significant minority stake in GM, after the suggestion was made by Kerkorian's Tracendia group, which controls roughly 10% of GM's stock (I think it's 10). Think Daimler-Benz - Chrysler merger on a smaller scale.
Thanks for the clarification. So if this happens, will nissan be another name under the GM title such as hummer, cadillac, and saab?

And i still stand by my statement that nissan is stereotyped with mitsubishi and honda as one of the best examples of import tuner. Nissan and mitsubishi have been in all three fast and the furious movies. And as all of you are aware of, the fast and the furious is the epitome of japanese car worship. (ie the skyline driven by vin diesels henchmen in the first movie, paul walkers blue skyline in the second one, and the bad guys 350z in the third one)

Also, the need for speed underground video games contribute greatly to nissan reputation. In the original game, the fastest car you could get was the skyline, and you unlocked it last after defeating one of the main bosses.

Trust me on this, nissan has some iconic cars for todays youth and todays youth will be tomorrows buyers.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by T56LS102
I cant see how you guys look at Nissan in the same light as Honda or mitsu?
It looks like you guys only look at "American Muscle" well look at the history of the 240Z i mean i dont think you guys know this but piror to 1970 the Corvette held the #1 selling 2 seater sport car in America than Datsun came out with the 240Z in 1970 and changed the sport car world! now fast foward to 1996 where they stoped making the 300ZX, and at that time in 1997 Cheve introduced the C5, the Corvette held the #1 selling 2 seater sport car till the yeay of 2003 Nissan came back out with the 350Z and took the tittle back, now being the #1 Selling 2 seater sport car in America!
Please, don't get PacerX started!



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