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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Base Model Nervousness

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but is anyone else worried about the entry-level camaro? One of the reasons I dislike the new stang so much is because they look horrible in base trim, which is what the majority on the street are, as will be the case with the new camaro. Even the 4th gens, especially the base firebird, looked bloated and bland with the little wheels/tires, etc. I'm just worried that the aggressive lines, low roof, and muscular fenders of the new camaro are going to look overdone & out of place on a plain jane v6 model, which could really hurt the mass appeal of the car. Maybe its just me though
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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who cares what the v6 looks like? I hope it only comes in z28 form personally
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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who cares what the v6 looks like?
We should all care, because if it fails so do the top models.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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who cares what the v6 looks like? I hope it only comes in z28 form personally
People who want the 5th gen to stay around IMO. If this car is going to sell over 100k units, the v6 is going to have to be a hit. If it looks the short-bus version of the z28 or ss, then it wont be a threat to the competition.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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I'm not nervous at all. GM knows the v6 cars have to be more than just afterthoughts.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris 96 WS6
I'm not nervous at all. GM knows the v6 cars have to be more than just afterthoughts.
Im pretty sure GM is aware that the V6 has to get the attention of the crowd. After all its the car that needs to sell to keep the car alive. Im sure they will have something good for us.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Base 4th gens had Z28 wheels, and tire width was only 10mm narrower
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Base 4th gens had Z28 wheels
Or vice versa, not sure which!!
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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We should all care, because if it fails so do the top models.

you couldnt have typed a more true statement.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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No Im not worried. Then again I think that the base mustang looks great. The only two things that give it away to me are single exhaust an fog lights? There isnt one Camaro year that didnt have a base model, plain jane in comparison.

My 69 didnt have the cowl, front spoiler or chrome shark gill. It got plenty of looks. My 98 doesnt have the Z28 wheels y'all are talking about so that must have been an option.(has hubcaps) Besides those , dual exhaust and badges I cant tell for the 4th gen. The car still has Mystic green which changes to purple slightly in certain light. Its going to be differentiated from the V8. Its also going to let the average person know what they're looking at when they see a Z28 after that.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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The concern I have is that this car, compared to the past models, is much more aggressive and bold. It doesn't seem like the design is meant to have an entry-level model. We are all use to seeing the camaro with 21/22" wheels, a rear valence with built-in dual exhaust,etc and I think that when the car gets watered down to be able to compete with a $20k mustang that it will look "cheap" for lack of a better term. It seems it is going to be like trying to make the corvette into an entry level sports car, from an appearance point of view.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tmgsix
The concern I have is that this car, compared to the past models, is much more aggressive and bold. It doesn't seem like the design is meant to have an entry-level model. We are all use to seeing the camaro with 21/22" wheels, a rear valence with built-in dual exhaust,etc and I think that when the car gets watered down to be able to compete with a $20k mustang that it will look "cheap" for lack of a better term. It seems it is going to be like trying to make the corvette into an entry level sports car, from an appearance point of view.
Well, any concept car has had those big rims. If I recall the 4th gen concept cars also had bigger rims then what they came with. I think (since I drive one) Thhe 4th gen V6 were perfect espically for there time era. Not many cars in the late 90s had a 200hp V6 for a sports car so it was a great car then still is today imo I love mine lol.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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I'm not worried about the base or mid level model. I think GM is going to nail it. What does worry me is the ability to personalize.... perhaps the Mustang's strong point.

The big thing about past "pony cars" (as well as modern ricers) is the ability and ease to find a wide range of performance and cosmetic parts and make your car unique.

I also hope GM finds a way to make most options ala-carte instead of needing to order packages containing items you don't want or need just to get a simple item.

Forcing someone in Hawaii or Arizona to order heated seats just to get a leather interior for example seems pretty dumb IMO.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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What does worry me is the ability to personalize.... perhaps the Mustang's strong point.

The big thing about past "pony cars" (as well as modern ricers) is the ability and ease to find a wide range of performance and cosmetic parts and make your car unique.

I also hope GM finds a way to make most options ala-carte instead of needing to order packages containing items you don't want or need just to get a simple item.

Forcing someone in Hawaii or Arizona to order heated seats just to get a leather interior for example seems pretty dumb IMO.

I thought the groupings like that were pretty smart. The only way to get exactly what you want or individualize exactly is to order a car not on the lot. Then arent you paying MSRP for it? It would seem to me you would have more control of what your getting. If you had the leather seats you would know that heated seats came with that package rather than a mis matched package that was cobbled together. Am I wrong on this?
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tmgsix
Even the 4th gens, especially the base firebird, looked bloated and bland with the little wheels/tires, etc. I'm just worried that the aggressive lines, low roof, and muscular fenders of the new camaro are going to look overdone & out of place on a plain jane v6 model, which could really hurt the mass appeal of the car. Maybe its just me though
I park next to a guy with a black Z28 convertable that has the exact stock rims and damn close tire size as me just about everyday and our cars dont look bloated . I agree with the others though. I think GM knows the v6er has to look good and appealing and I dont think they'll disappoint.



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