Old 05-01-2006, 10:28 AM   #1
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GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

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Old 05-01-2006, 10:44 AM   #2
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

*SIGH* I know that a friend of mine went to a dealership a while ago (which will be unnamed but you can do the math) and asked if they were taking deposits on the new Camaro, just to see what they knew.

Their answer? In so many words...

"New Camaro? What new Camaro? Camaro Concept? Never heard of it. No idea what you are talking about. You want to leave a deposit on a car we had absolutely no prior knowledge of? SURE! We'll take your desposit. Write the check right now and we'll set it up. However, it is a non-returnable deposit and we will not be able to guarantee you any particular price. Sign here."

Does everyone see how many problems there are in that situation?
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:49 AM   #3
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

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"New Camaro? What new Camaro? Camaro Concept? Never heard of it. No idea what you are talking about. You want to leave a deposit on a car we had absolutely no prior knowledge of? SURE! We'll take your desposit. Write the check right now and we'll set it up. However, it is a non-returnable deposit and we will not be able to guarantee you any particular price. Sign here."
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:06 AM   #4
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

a fool and his money are parted easilly
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:31 AM   #5
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

Yeah, I saw an ad for a local dealership advertising that you could come in and reserve a new Camaro.

When I was selling cars awhile back someone went into our larger dealership and gave them a $10,000 check to hold a new Ford GT... right after the concept came out... of course they took it,
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Old 05-01-2006, 12:33 PM   #6
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.


What dealers do to make a buck makes me sick…..

Scott was telling me its ok to go put your name on a waiting list, but absolutely don’t put any money down or sign anything legally bounding.

I may not buy until the second or third year of production since I’m going to need to get my financial life in order after college and also waiting for the vert; thus I don’t care about getting my name on any list.

I did think this was funny though concerning when the viper concept came out:

“One man sent a check for $60,000 to then-Chrysler President Robert Lutz, for two Vipers - one for himself and one for his wife. Chrysler returned the checks.”

I would so do that as a joke……maybe I’ll send a cancelled check for $35,000 to Mr. Lutz…
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Old 05-01-2006, 01:50 PM   #7
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

De - ****ing -spicable.

I could see if they wanted to attract attention to the dealership and had people come in. Give them a little print out with some info on it and send them back out the door.

Taking deposits is purely exploitative though.

That dealership is "Corvette King" anyway, I would think they wouldnt need to resort to such.
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

Definitely shady, but I found this promising:

"Chevrolet hopes to announce its plans for the Camaro this summer, Albano says."
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Old 05-01-2006, 05:50 PM   #9
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

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"New Camaro? What new Camaro? Camaro Concept? Never heard of it. No idea what you are talking about. You want to leave a deposit on a car we had absolutely no prior knowledge of? SURE! We'll take your desposit. Write the check right now and we'll set it up. However, it is a non-returnable deposit and we will not be able to guarantee you any particular price. Sign here."

Does everyone see how many problems there are in that situation?

You have to understand that, with very few exceptions, when you are dealing with a car salesman, you are not usually dealing with intelligent life. They usually have no significant knowledge of the auto industry in general or of the brand of vehicle their dealership sells…most of them are just passing time until they find a real job or car salesman (or Credit Card collector) is the only job they can qualify for.

It’s very likely that if GM does announce that they are building the next Camaro, people on boards like this will know the details long before most salesmen bother to become aware of it!

In late 1978 I was ready to order a brand new, Black/Gold 1979 TransAm and went to the largest Pontiac dealerships in the Seattle area to order it. At the time, I owned a 1976 50th Anniversary Black/Gold TransAm, of which there were less than 3,000 made (only about 600 with T-Tops). The idiot SALES MANAGER of this dealership argued with me for 20 minutes claiming the GM never produced the car I owned and had with me that night.

Needless to say, I left that dealership and ordered my 1979 from a much smaller dealer closer to home (in Bremerton, WA) who had a salesman that actually knew something about the cars Pontiac made.

Never underestimate the stupidity of a car salesman and if you happen to find a good one, don’t loose his business card or cell phone number!
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:33 PM   #10
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Angry Dealership already taking $1k deposits on new Camaro.... NOT!

Check out the story about Camaro deposits - http://www.camaro5.com/

Never good to attract the attention of GM's big whigs
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:31 AM   #11
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In late 1978 I was ready to order a brand new, Black/Gold 1979 TransAm and went to the largest Pontiac dealerships in the Seattle area to order it. At the time, I owned a 1976 50th Anniversary Black/Gold TransAm, of which there were less than 3,000 made (only about 600 with T-Tops). The idiot SALES MANAGER of this dealership argued with me for 20 minutes claiming the GM never produced the car I owned and had with me that night.

Needless to say, I left that dealership and ordered my 1979 from a much smaller dealer closer to home (in Bremerton, WA) who had a salesman that actually knew something about the cars Pontiac made.
Sounds a lot like what I went through trying to "convince" certain GM (even Pontiac) dealerships that the 25th Anniversary Trans AM I owned actually WAS a limited edition car and had a much higher retail value than a normal 1994 T/A. Trade in values differed GREATLY from dealership to dealership... some as low as $3,000, some as high as $10,000... just depended on the intelligence of the people working there. Hell, even a Ford dealership recognized the car was a collectible and offered me $7,500... I just didn't want a Mustang and nothing else they had really appealed to me (couldn't afford a V8 Lincoln LS).

I think the best example was the dealership selling a 2002 "Collector's Edition" Trans AM and touting it as highly collectible, and then saying my car just had a decal package
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:47 AM   #13
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Re: Dealership already taking $1k deposits on new Camaro.... NOT!

That's friggin great.

That's just what we need.

Morons.

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Old 05-02-2006, 10:00 AM   #14
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Re: GM tells dealer to pull Camaro ad.

Can't wait to see how much "market adjustment" the new Camaro will have when it hits the dealer lots.

And the amount of people actually wanting to pay that money, too...
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