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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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For those that wanted a turbo Cobalt SS...

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Valencia, CA (PRWEB) March 23, 2005 -- In February 2005, General Motors awarded Gravana a 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe for two primary reasons. First, Gravana is currently leading the industry in New Product Development for Cobalt Aftermarket. Second, the exposure and excitement created around Gravana’s 2004 SEMA Cobalts has allowed consumers to gain ideas of what they themselves can build once they buy a Chevrolet Cobalt. Unlike 2004, in which GM delivered two Cobalts one month prior to the SEMA Show deadline, Gravana will have at least six months to build this Cobalt for the 2005 Las Vegas SEMA Show.

For 2005, Gravana will build the ultimate “Twin-Charged” Cobalt SS Coupe. The stock Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe comes from the factory with an Intercooled Supercharger that produces 205HP. Gravana will add a Turbocharger ON TOP OF the factory Supercharger, to increase the power to approximately 300HP. In addition to building this monstrous power plant, Gravana will focus on expanding its line of products for the Cobalt, including a vented hood, Teske Design series body kit and several performance products for the standard SS Coupe. Gravana will again rely on companies such as Recaro, Boston Acoustics, Motegi, H&R and Goodyear for marketing partnerships on this project.

“We are truly honored to have been awarded this project so early in the season. As we learned from last year’s Gravana Project Cobalts, the excitement of these modified cars is helping to drive traffic to Chevrolet dealers. Given the great platform provided by Chevrolet, along with the early start on aftermarket products, the Cobalt has already become a desirable Tuner Car. Chevrolet has an aftermarket winner on their hands. We are just happy to be involved with such a great organization,” said Jim Lupold, President of Gravana. “We look forward to unveiling the Gravana Twin-Charged Cobalt SS Coupe at this year’s SEMA Show.”

Gravana’s product line-up for the Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe includes, but is not limited to, a 50-state legal Air Intake System, Header, Exhaust, Evo Style Hood, Body Kit, Coil-Over Suspension, Strut Bars, Carbon Fiber Door Sills and Engine Covers, and a variety of additional upgrades that compliment the car. Companies interested in a marketing partnership on the Gravana Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe, or any other Gravana project vehicle, should contact Gravana using the contact information below.
http://www.cobaltss.com/

Seems kinda retarded to use a turbo and supercharger and be a SOB to work on. The one thing I do like about it is that GM is actually giving a car to aftermarket providers to let them develop products like Ford does with the Mustang. This could be a good trend for GM.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Valencia, CA (PRWEB) March 23, 2005 -- In February 2005, General Motors awarded Gravana a 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe for two primary reasons. First, Gravana is currently leading the industry in New Product Development for Cobalt Aftermarket. Second, the exposure and excitement created around Gravana’s 2004 SEMA Cobalts has allowed consumers to gain ideas of what they themselves can build once they buy a Chevrolet Cobalt. Unlike 2004, in which GM delivered two Cobalts one month prior to the SEMA Show deadline, Gravana will have at least six months to build this Cobalt for the 2005 Las Vegas SEMA Show.

For 2005, Gravana will build the ultimate “Twin-Charged” Cobalt SS Coupe. The stock Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe comes from the factory with an Intercooled Supercharger that produces 205HP. Gravana will add a Turbocharger ON TOP OF the factory Supercharger, to increase the power to approximately 300HP. In addition to building this monstrous power plant, Gravana will focus on expanding its line of products for the Cobalt, including a vented hood, Teske Design series body kit and several performance products for the standard SS Coupe. Gravana will again rely on companies such as Recaro, Boston Acoustics, Motegi, H&R and Goodyear for marketing partnerships on this project.

“We are truly honored to have been awarded this project so early in the season. As we learned from last year’s Gravana Project Cobalts, the excitement of these modified cars is helping to drive traffic to Chevrolet dealers. Given the great platform provided by Chevrolet, along with the early start on aftermarket products, the Cobalt has already become a desirable Tuner Car. Chevrolet has an aftermarket winner on their hands. We are just happy to be involved with such a great organization,” said Jim Lupold, President of Gravana. “We look forward to unveiling the Gravana Twin-Charged Cobalt SS Coupe at this year’s SEMA Show.”

Gravana’s product line-up for the Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe includes, but is not limited to, a 50-state legal Air Intake System, Header, Exhaust, Evo Style Hood, Body Kit, Coil-Over Suspension, Strut Bars, Carbon Fiber Door Sills and Engine Covers, and a variety of additional upgrades that compliment the car. Companies interested in a marketing partnership on the Gravana Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe, or any other Gravana project vehicle, should contact Gravana using the contact information below.
http://www.cobaltss.com/

Seems kinda retarded to use a turbo and supercharger and be a SOB to work on. The one thing I do like about it is that GM is actually giving a car to aftermarket providers to let them develop products like Ford does with the Mustang. This could be a good trend for GM.
300 HP in a tiny vehicle like that!!!
HOLY ****!!!! If only GM would sell it as a dealer installed option!
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Can you imagine how much boost people would put through that thing?!? I don't think they will last long once they enter the rice world of 20#s of boost. Lol, buying a pulley and boost controller for the same car....wierd
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Can you imagine how much boost people would put through that thing?!? I don't think they will last long once they enter the rice world of 20#s of boost. Lol, buying a pulley and boost controller for the same car....wierd
Yeah, but imagine how much fun it would be.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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i hope they rethink their plans on building bodykits
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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http://www.gravanatuning.com/ is their website. it was started by the guy behind rksport. Theyre actually making a woodward style hood for the gto which is nice.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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IMHO, I bet this is mostly a "show thing". I have little doubt that a turbo, all by itself, could make that same 300 HP - and be more efficient doing it.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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with enough boost and proper tuning it easily could
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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IMHO, I bet this is mostly a "show thing". I have little doubt that a turbo, all by itself, could make that same 300 HP - and be more efficient doing it.
I agree, why limit rpm with a supercharger? Some guys I know actually removed one of the turbos on their Supra's b/c one good sized turbo was more than sufficient, and less restrictive.
I'd LOVE to see a serious attempt at a Cobalt SS turbo, available only in a manual shift...How much fun would that be!..
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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BTW, That news is over a month old.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
IMHO, I bet this is mostly a "show thing". I have little doubt that a turbo, all by itself, could make that same 300 HP - and be more efficient doing it.
Yeah. A turbo would have done it for cheaper too. This twin-charger setup is way too much work and $$ for just 300 horses. But it's a show-car, and they're doing it more for the "wow" factor than anything else. You just know this car will get a lot of attention come SEMA, and that's what GM and Gravana want.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Yeah, I too agree it's a show thing, but pretty cool nonetheless. I suppose the supercharger could counter the lag encountered with larger turbos, but a good set of twins could do the same thing. Can you imagine what a conversation starter that would be for the tuner crowd.

"What ya got in there, 'charger, 'turbo?"
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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Anyone here ever heard of the AW11 MR2 S/C? People have been doing twincharger setups on those for years, and achieving extremely good results out of it. It is NOT "Just a show thing". Twincharging gives you the best of both worlds, low end(s/c), and top end(turbo) power. It is most common on factory roots supercharged fours where the s/c is extremely inefficient(with higher-than-stock-boost) in the higher RPM's, and there isn't an aftermarket manifold to remove the s/c and run a traditonal turbo setup with the stock boost-ready internals. I don't know if the SS uses a roots or centrifugal-type supercharger, so I can't really say if it's the best setup for it. And if you can turbo a stock n/a B-series Honda motor and have over 300 horses with no internal work, then I am absolutely positive you can get MUCH more than 300 out of a motor that is built for boost(Cobalt SS).
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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TWO OUTSTANDING THUMBS UP TO THE GENERAL!

That's what I was talking about when I mentioned "actively support the aftermarket".
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharker524
Anyone here ever heard of the AW11 MR2 S/C? People have been doing twincharger setups on those for years, and achieving extremely good results out of it. It is NOT "Just a show thing". Twincharging gives you the best of both worlds, low end(s/c), and top end(turbo) power. It is most common on factory roots supercharged fours where the s/c is extremely inefficient(with higher-than-stock-boost) in the higher RPM's, and there isn't an aftermarket manifold to remove the s/c and run a traditonal turbo setup with the stock boost-ready internals. I don't know if the SS uses a roots or centrifugal-type supercharger, so I can't really say if it's the best setup for it. And if you can turbo a stock n/a B-series Honda motor and have over 300 horses with no internal work, then I am absolutely positive you can get MUCH more than 300 out of a motor that is built for boost(Cobalt SS).
IIRC, the Cobalt SS Ecotec is an intercooled roots setup.



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