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04-09-2004, 12:30 AM
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Swaybars
I apologize if this is an ignorant question but why do bigger swaybars hurt 1/4 times?
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04-09-2004, 12:43 AM
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good question, I know they do, but not why.
I think it has to do something with weight transfer, but I'm not sure.
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09-12-2004, 03:38 PM
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Re: Swaybars
A bigger front one hurts,weight nad not allowing the front to raise and transfer weight to the rear. A larger rear bar will help in traction by keeping the axle from twisting. BMR sells a 1 1/4" rear extreme duty bar just for drag racing. I run no front bar when I race, and a 24mm rear.
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09-12-2004, 03:53 PM
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Re: Swaybars
if weight hurts it, then the front swaybar has the possibility of not harming your 1/4 times
anybody have the weight of the stock swaybar compared to the 35mm hollow bar?
that could be a way to get handling and still retain 1/4 times (granted running no front swaybar would help more like 1msfyter said)
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09-13-2004, 02:38 AM
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Re: Swaybars
the weight off the front end is just a good byproduct, the front swaybar being hooked up limits the suspension from lifting so the car won,t weight transfer as well as not having the swaybar hooked up.
Unhooking the swaybar lets the front end lift thus helping the weight transfer to the rear of the car thus helping traction.
Any of that make sense?
I use to run a 1LE front sway bar but I set the car up for drag racing so now I have no swaybar, even the brackets are gone.
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04-27-2005, 01:13 PM
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Re: Swaybars
Old thread - but spurred me to ask this:
Does a bigger (but same weight) swaybar hurt drag launches MORE than a stock swaybar?
If so How?
Everyones kinda answered that no swaybar is best, but what about between these two options? Does it make much difference vs the stocker...
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04-28-2005, 01:17 PM
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Re: Swaybars
from what i understand, a bigger swaybar can only hurt if it's heavier
so no, a bigger but same weight one will have the same effect as a stocker
that's why i think the 35mm hollow is such a popular choice
handling and retains good drag characteristics (that and nobody adds unneccessary weight on the front if they can avoid it)
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04-28-2005, 02:14 PM
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Re: Swaybars
ok
the reason a front sway bar hurts 1/4 times is because it increases front torsional resistance
when the front is torsionally stiffer than the rear, the rear twists before the front, the result is the body leaning towards the passenger, and the axle twisting, putting less weight on the passenger side as well,
it looks weird and sounds funny but its true
the weight of the bar is negligible
when u disconnect the front sway bar, the rear is torsionally stiffer allowing the torque of the motor to twist the front end, leaving the rear well enough alone, and both tires stay better planted to the ground
if i'm wrong go ahead and correct me
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