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06-29-2002, 09:40 PM
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Can anyone make a 4L60E live?
I work at a Fbody Prformance parts and install shop, and wwe've been trying to figure this one out. We dont build the trannies ourselves, but we're trying to come up with some idea to make them live. We tried finding a stronger forward drum, but it seems none exists. ANy knowns remedies for having snap rings break? Is that a result of too much line pressure or?...
We have a 10.90 LS1 heads and cam car here that just blew apart a tranny that was built by one of the bigger names in 4th gen Fbodyland, and it was supposed to be able ot withstand 9 second passes. Who makes them live? We just converted a 6 speed 422 C5 to an auto in hopes of less parts breakage (tranny output shafts and Dana rears), hopefully the Rossler tranny holds up to it well
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!LT1 and insert one LS1 12.49 @ 113
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06-29-2002, 10:21 PM
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I have one living in day to day traffic running 11.00.
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"The Secret to Reliable Performance"
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N/A 10.97@121 1.48 60Ft * N20 Coming
OLD TIMES**10.05@135 1.49 60Ft with an A4 to a 12 bolt hauling 3650Lbs!**
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06-29-2002, 10:30 PM
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SO tell me how?  What parts what line presure, how may passes has i survived etc etc.
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1997 Sebring Silver Camaro SS 6 Speed, Bone Stock 13.52 @ 104.2
!LT1 and insert one LS1 12.49 @ 113
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06-30-2002, 12:37 AM
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Check out the motor trend that has the lingenfelter corvette vs. the fighter jet. The vette runs 9.20's @150 with a 4L60E. I can't remember the name of the company that modified the trans but I think it was Rossler or something like that.
Matt
Nevermind I see that you are already aware of the company....didn't read the whole post
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96 Camaro Z28 6spd., T-tops, custom viper red with pearlcoat paintjob and black top. Will have some N/A times soon!
The Z under construction
92 Talon TSI 5spd. AWD Best E.T.-13.753@98.30mph
1.885 60ft.@13lbs boost
[This message has been edited by Nostang 96z (edited June 30, 2002).]
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96 Camaro Z28 th400, 355 LT1 11.5-1, GTP S2 LT4's, GTP-6 cam, moser 9" 3.70's, and full suspension.
Best N/A 1.579 60', 11.449@118 w/ 4.11's and 26" tires
1.711 60', 11.760@116 w/ 3.70's and 28" tires
Best 150 shot 1.437 60', 10.354@129
Best 200 shot 1.592 60', 10.277@133--only shakedown pass on a soft launch
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06-30-2002, 01:18 AM
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part are basic nothing Crazy.
Off the top of my head I used a Superior VB kit, .490 Boost,4340 Sun Shell, Sonnax 3rd gear Accu Check valve, Factory frictions and steel's, 4L65E planets, and a Yank 3,800 T.C.
You want to know the REAL key? Programming
They will NOT live forever no matter how much you build them I will not lie to you. Then again neither will any thing else  I used to go through up to FOUR TH400s a season. I could rip the input shaft out of them almost at will. This was with a 327  I killed some of the best transmissions made before I started building my own
Feel free to E-mail me. I would like to hear exactly what you are breaking.
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Ellis
"The Secret to Reliable Performance"
642RWHP/638RWTQ SAE
N/A 10.97@121 1.48 60Ft * N20 Coming
OLD TIMES**10.05@135 1.49 60Ft with an A4 to a 12 bolt hauling 3650Lbs!**
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07-02-2002, 05:02 AM
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Well, Ellis thanks for another great build on my car. The Alto red Band and 3/4 clutches do hit a lot harder on the street. After playing a few days I have already got use to the shifts (3200 PI helps). Now if I can just find the false knock with the long tubes!
Oh, and here is Ryan's 11.00 car Ellis, with now a 10.97 @ 125.3 off the gas at the end (bracket racing), 3700lb race weight, with alot a rwhp....You build some "Kick Ass" tranny's
http://www.teamnwfbody.org/Library/10sec%20pass.WMV
Jim  (Every 4L60E mod except billet input and output shafts...)
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Tornado, Airfoil, Paper air filter........
[This message has been edited by jimbob65 (edited July 02, 2002).]
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07-02-2002, 07:16 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">ANy knowns remedies for having snap rings break? [/b]</font>
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Try a C-6 rear planetary snap ring to go in the rear ring gear.
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07-02-2002, 09:18 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Can anyone make a 4L60E live? </font>
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YES, you transform it to a TH400
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1995 Impala SS "Cherry Bomb"
Best ETs: faster than my '65 pickup
Mods: 93% stock
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Best ETs: faster than my '65 pickup
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07-02-2002, 12:58 PM
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OK George, you show off!
If Chuck at FLP can build a 4L60E to hold up to the torque that is necessary to propel a 4000#+ vehicle to 190+ on the autobaun, that I would say, is respectable.
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07-02-2002, 03:35 PM
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hehehe
I talked to Goerges builder and his was doing fine till just about 1000RWHP
Then he had to go to a TH400
Thanks for the good words Jim! You and Ryan are two of my toughest customers!
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Ellis
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Team North West F-Body
www.teamnwfbody.org
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Ellis
"The Secret to Reliable Performance"
642RWHP/638RWTQ SAE
N/A 10.97@121 1.48 60Ft * N20 Coming
OLD TIMES**10.05@135 1.49 60Ft with an A4 to a 12 bolt hauling 3650Lbs!**
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07-02-2002, 07:04 PM
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Hey Ellis,
Nice to see you still at it
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1995 Impala SS "Cherry Bomb"
Best ETs: faster than my '65 pickup
Mods: 93% stock
My Super Impala SS Website
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1995 Impala SS "Cherry Bomb"
Best ETs: faster than my '65 pickup
Mods: 93% stock
My Super Impala SS Website
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07-02-2002, 08:31 PM
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I find it hard to believe you had more problems with a turbo 400. A 4l60e is a hunk of crap past 500rwhp or 400. Sure 2 people have good 4l60es'. I'm sure it took you ten tries to re-build your on bullet proof 4l60e tranny. I will go for thee 1968 technology, with a gear vender that will support over 1000hp..
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94 355 a4, ATI d1sc twin inter cool eagle rods,SRP slugs/rings, ported heads, crane springs, comp chrome molly push rods, comp pro-mag rockers, CC305, comp r lifters, hooker LT's, 3.42's, 255lhp intank/ATI, 42's, vig 3300..........ect
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07-02-2002, 08:59 PM
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Boosted that is how you feel I under stand. Then again i have been at this for a while and know what I know
BTW A little fact for all of you...
The 4L60E has had a better track record then either the Th350 OR Th400 during there introduction
I personaly have had FAR better luck with my 700R4 dirivitives(700R4/4L60/4L60E/4L65E) then any other GM trans I have used and I have built and raced most all of them  I would DAMN sure pick one of them over a TH350 ANY DAY!!
Then again that is just me. I mean hell 10 second 3,700 cars do not take much of a trans anyway rite?
BTW Boosted, George here will tell you I was running 14# of Boost on a 4L60E before you were thinking about it  The blower and motor are long gone but at 50K miles the same trans remains with the factory clutches and Band in my "Bullet Proff" Trans  Look before you leap
Good luck to you all
Ellis
"Your worst Nightmare is just around the corner"
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Ellis
"The Secret to Reliable Performance"
642RWHP/638RWTQ SAE
N/A 10.97@121 1.48 60Ft * N20 Coming
OLD TIMES**10.05@135 1.49 60Ft with an A4 to a 12 bolt hauling 3650Lbs!**
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07-02-2002, 09:20 PM
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Thanks for the good words Jim! You and Ryan are two of my toughest customers!
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I think a 400 you built recently is gonna be the real testament....
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