ABS Delete with pic

8850 · 10-28-2003, 08:33 AM

Here's how I deleted my ABS. Makes for an 8 pounds weight saings.

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/440/absdel.jpg

Email me if you would like fitting part numbers, source and pricing.

larry98@ev1.net

Word of caution. Don't use standard brass fittings. They may not be rated for the pressure requirements of a braking system. The fittings I used are pressure rated the same rating as the tube. In 3/16" and 1/4" tubing these fitting are rated up to 9600 psi.

chuck · 10-28-2003, 08:38 AM

How are your brakes after the mod? I thought the ABS unit controlled the front-to-rear bias, or proportioning, on our cars.

chpmnsws6 · 10-28-2003, 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by chuck
How are your brakes after the mod? I thought the ABS unit controlled the front-to-rear bias, or proportioning, on our cars.

what he said! i wanna know so i can do it also

8850 · 10-28-2003, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by chuck
How are your brakes after the mod? I thought the ABS unit controlled the front-to-rear bias, or proportioning, on our cars.

I have made a few hard stops and I can't tell any difference. Not a panic stop hard enough to lock the tires but hard. I would say they work pretty much like all the cars before ABS was introduced.

ss00 · 10-28-2003, 09:14 AM

The ABS system does not control front/rear proportioning under braking conditions where the potential for wheel lock-up is not present. ABS is only active during braking conditions where prevention of wheel lock-up is necessary.

autoguy · 10-28-2003, 08:50 PM

does 8 pounds really make that big a difference? the reason i ask is because i wouldn't want to risk my saftey for 8 pounds.... just my thoughts on the matter.

chpmnsws6 · 10-28-2003, 08:54 PM

i personally don't like abs and so i dont want it in my car.....

Mike94ZLT1 · 10-28-2003, 11:06 PM

I f'ing HATE ABS. It's almost caused me many accidents. The tires on our cars are wide and sticky enought that on a dry road they aren't going to lock up. In snow, yes but I don't drive my baby in the snow, thats what the lemans is for. Please post a list of what you need, how you do it, and does this set off any warning lights? Thanks!

Mike94ZLT1 · 10-28-2003, 11:08 PM

Got anything on deleting ASR?

chpmnsws6 · 10-29-2003, 12:44 AM

we are just doing things that make the car feel better to us

chpmnsws6 · 10-29-2003, 08:56 AM

^^^^ for me its not about weight savings but the weight takin out of the front end is a good thing!

8850 · 10-29-2003, 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by whoa guy
i think its dumb to delete stuff......then again....im not all hardcore wanting to go fast. if i was....i sure as heck would drag out a 4th gen. old chevelle, 'maro or nova or somehting....not a new car.

Depends on whether you like seeing tail lights or win lights! I suppose you don't mind seeing red. Myself, I like that win light!

I don't feel my 98 is all that new and too, it's not my daily driver. I use it for racing only.

8850 · 10-29-2003, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by autoguy
does 8 pounds really make that big a difference? the reason i ask is because i wouldn't want to risk my saftey for 8 pounds.... just my thoughts on the matter.

Definitely makes a difference! If you are a serious racer 8 pounds is a very good savings. If you like seeing red like "whoa guy" then leave it on.

ABS is certainly a safer way of braking during a panic stop. I am not recommending anybody remove the ABS, only a way of doing it for the serious racers. ABS is definitely safer to have on wet streets and/or otherwise slick streets.

Ken S · 10-29-2003, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by ss00
The ABS system does not control front/rear proportioning under braking conditions where the potential for wheel lock-up is not present. ABS is only active during braking conditions where prevention of wheel lock-up is necessary.

are you sure? I've heard that there is dynamic brake proportioning in our cars which is part of the ABS system, thats active all the time..

JIMS1999CONVZ28 · 11-05-2004, 04:29 PM

Hi Larry,
I used the fittings you recommended on CamaorZ28.com and they worked great, thanks.

When I went to bleed the brakes; passenger rear first, I got hardly any fluid coming out! I had my son pump till he got a firm petal and release the bleed valve and just a small amout of brake fluid came out of the line an after a few of these pumps no air at all. (I was using clear line to bleed).
Then the Driver Side rear and the same thing!
Then on to the front PS (new calipers, turned rotors, new Hawk Pads) and it bled normally. First get the air out, then make sure it is gone and a steady stream of Brake fluid. Same for the DS front.

QUESTION: Did you get the same amount of brake fluid coming off the rear calipers?
This is a 1993 Z28.

Thanks,
Jim