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07-27-2003, 07:50 PM
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Which clutch should I get?
My car has about 75k miles and the clutch is in need of replacement but I don't know which one to get. I know that I don't need a McCloud yet ( CAI and pro 5.0 are my only mods) and I know that Centerforce really sucks. Has anyone used the Ram heavy duty clutch from summit? It is supposed to hold up to 400hp and is only $300. I plan to mod my car slowly so I don't want to put another stock clutch in it. What about the lt4 clutch is that any better than the stock lt1? Any input will be appreciated.
By the way I already did a search.
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07-27-2003, 08:11 PM
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I recomend Star Spec http://www.specclutch.com I have the stage 2 version, and their lightweight billet flywheel. They have stages 1 through 5, stage a and 2 are VERY streetable, but have the performance when u need it. Stage 3 and higher i belive are puck style and are alittle rougher. Regardless they are VERY afordable. If I were you, i would get star spec stage 2 (klevlar) and their lightweight wheel. I would say recut your flywheel BUT performamce clutches dont like that. That help? :-) BTW Star Spec has GREAT customer service, any issue they will usally repalce the unit if u send it back to them.
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1994 Trans AM GT M6
Forged 383 LT1 + n2o + LOTS of Spohn
442rwhp/420rwtq NA uncorrected
639rwhp/666 rwtq uncorrected on 150 shot (lifted at 5400rpms)
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07-27-2003, 08:24 PM
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Thanks for the input, but I guess I should have said originally that I am a poor college student. $800+ for a clutch just isn't going to happen anytime soon. Especially since I need two window motors and t-top seals too. Is it really that important to go with an aftermarket flywheel with a mild performace clutch? Shoud I just go with a stock clutch if I can't afford a flywheel right now?
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07-27-2003, 08:32 PM
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I have the centerforce and have had absolutely no problems with it. Been in about a year now. I remember others saying they were having trouble with it but mines been perfect so far.
Drew
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07-27-2003, 08:52 PM
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I bought my car with a centerforce, so you can say i had centerforce and a starspec clutch, both were fine, i liked starspec ALOT more. If your tight on cash, i would say wait alittle while longer, and save abit cus it isn't exactly cheap to drop the trans agian. If you cant wait, i say get a star spec stage 1, and cut the flywheel at a local auto parts store :-) Best advice i can give, i would recomend star spec, over SLP and Centerforce anyway, i cant say over MC twin cus i never drove it, then agian its $1100 (clutch + flywheel kit) lol. Upto you, if you can do it yourself, even better :-) Shops ually charge like $300 or so to drop the trans and install a clutch. Better to do it right the first time.
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1994 Trans AM GT M6
Forged 383 LT1 + n2o + LOTS of Spohn
442rwhp/420rwtq NA uncorrected
639rwhp/666 rwtq uncorrected on 150 shot (lifted at 5400rpms)
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07-27-2003, 08:53 PM
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Thanks, but I have put a centerforce in 1 lt1 Trans Am, 1 4.6 mustang, 2 hondas, and 1 nissan and they were all f*&%ed up.
I would not put a centerforce clutch in my lawnmower.
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07-27-2003, 09:00 PM
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Yea i had the dual friction centerforce, it was ok. But when it goes, boy, it just goes, haha. Not very street friendly either, some ppl have good luck with them, I didn't.
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1994 Trans AM GT M6
Forged 383 LT1 + n2o + LOTS of Spohn
442rwhp/420rwtq NA uncorrected
639rwhp/666 rwtq uncorrected on 150 shot (lifted at 5400rpms)
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07-27-2003, 09:06 PM
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id go with the LT4 pp or SLP pp with either a SPEC disc or a stock LT1 disc. the LT4 pp is $208 from a discount dealer like Jason Cromer and then either get an LT1 disc from him for around $180 or just get one elsewhere. the pp that SPEC sells is the same as the LT4 but its painted yellow so theres no need to pay extra for the pretty paint.
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Brad
1997 Z28 M6
340rwhp/340rwtq(before LE heads)
mods: loud exhaust and lopey idle
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07-27-2003, 09:12 PM
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Why the lt1 disk and not the lt4 are they the same?
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07-27-2003, 09:18 PM
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Not sure if they are the same disc, but i belive you can get a complete stage 1 clutch setup for $385, just recut your flywheel, check out the site above.
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1994 Trans AM GT M6
Forged 383 LT1 + n2o + LOTS of Spohn
442rwhp/420rwtq NA uncorrected
639rwhp/666 rwtq uncorrected on 150 shot (lifted at 5400rpms)
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07-27-2003, 09:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by sikz28
Why the lt1 disk and not the lt4 are they the same?
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the LT4 is unsprug so its has no spings in it like ours do. w/o the special dual mass flywheel like you find on LT4 vettes, i hear the LT4 disc wont work or it chatters really bad plus it breaks.
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Brad
1997 Z28 M6
340rwhp/340rwtq(before LE heads)
mods: loud exhaust and lopey idle
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07-27-2003, 09:42 PM
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Thanks for all the info. Has anyone even tried the Ram HD clutch that summit sells? $300 just seems like a pretty good price for a clutch that will hold 400hp.
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07-27-2003, 09:43 PM
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ehh...i heard good reviews from the mustang guys, but from the fbody crew, they were soso, get a star spec, end of story! You will thank me.
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1994 Trans AM GT M6
Forged 383 LT1 + n2o + LOTS of Spohn
442rwhp/420rwtq NA uncorrected
639rwhp/666 rwtq uncorrected on 150 shot (lifted at 5400rpms)
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07-27-2003, 09:48 PM
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I have the LT4 clutch setup and have had no problems for 20k miles. cost under $300.
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Sean
1995 Quasar Blue Z28
3.73, T56 swap, Edelbrock headers, Holley 52mm TB, Lingenfelter CAI, 1LE elbow, Flowmaster muffler, !cat, !air, LT4 KM, Sportlines, BMR tubular SFC, silver ZR1s
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07-27-2003, 09:48 PM
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I've herd nothing but good about the SLP disk/pressure plate combo, thats why I went with it, about to install tommorow.... =0p do a search on the slp and see what comes up...
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