We have a winner!

It makes the most sense from a business standpoint. Offer the base V6 initially. Those that want a Camaro now, will flock to it. A few months later offer the V8 powered SS, the enthusiasts will know its coming and wait. 6-9 months later, the convertible goes up for sale. 12 months after that, the high optioned super Camaro aka Z/28.

You want Camaro to succeed? That release formula will work.

Now if we could just travel forward in time 3-years to see if I'm right.

 

If they make me wait ANOTHER 6-9 months after the car is officially released, after already having me wait 3 years from first seeing it, I'm going to kill someone.

 

Pop a qualude and relax man...

GT's were around, but not on dealer lots. I belive that in the first months of Mustang sales, that the GT take was over 50? GM would be stupid to not release the higher profit, higher demand V8 cars right off the bat. You bring a concept car with a 400hp V8, and then launch it for the first 6 months with a V6 only? Renn Center will burn to the ground.

 

LOL I should have followed my statement with a smile of some kind. I wasn't quite as tense as it seemed.

But I will at least mildly strangle someone if the V8 comes out that much later. haha

 

There's NO WAY that GM could possibly consider not releasing some sort of V8 around 400hp right off the bat...

I mean...that's, that's just stupid! aren't the numbers something like 30% of Mustangs were V8's? and isn't likely that the Camaro would have similar numbers? Why skimp that potential 30%? (or whatever it is)

3 years for a Z/28? sorry, my spidey sense say's uh-uh...Z/28 is Camaro. What other car do you think of when you hear it? Z/28 will be part of the Camaro trim lineup, released immediately to a few months after the car's debut. All speculation, of course, but...3 years for it's identity to arrive? I get sick thinking about it...

 

I'm wondering what evidence you have that such an approach will work with Camaro?

Camaro is a highly visible car - the most visible and exciting concept that GM has had in decades according to all reports. With that kind of response, IMHO you have to throw down the gauntlet to the competition at launch - have the release of the car make as much of a statement as the concept did.

I'm dubious of the effectiveness of the high-end V8 being released one year after launch (if GM does indeed do that) because I think it will turn off a lot of people - some excitement will have gone for some people and even if they get the car they want one year later, the fact they had to wait another year will still leave a bad taste in their mouth.

Staggering releases as far apart as you suggest would kill any momentum that the concept generated and GM can't do that these days. Also, the market Camaro is going into is vastly different than the market two years ago. Camaro will have to compete against Challenger and Mustang - and potentially a new Hyundai. A staggered release might be a good way to get people to consider other nameplates - especially if *they* stagger their model releases as well.

 

Yeah, I have to agree that's crazy. What are the reviewers going to do with a V6 Camaro? Have a shootout with the V6 Mustang?

If anything they consider the reverse and issue the loaded V8 model first to soak the enthusiasts itching to buy (sorry!).

 

Might want to re-watch and re-listen.
3:50-Start building at the end of 2008
3:55- Start arriving in showrooms at the end of '08-start of '09

jg95z28 said it probally won't be available in most dealers till the 1st quarter 2009, so he seems to be correct.

Mustang GTs were in seriously short supply the 1st few months, and weren't horded in people's garages.

You do know you can get Mustang production breakdowns on the internet, don't you???

Production of new vehicles tend to happen 2-3 months before they debut in showrooms. I said production should start in October if the car's going to be in showrooms at the turn of the year. The video link you posted also has Ed Peper saying the exact same thing: Production start at the end of '08, showrooms end of 08 to start of '09. The cars will have probally no more than a 60-90 day hold (sitting on lots aren't free).

There will be perhaps a dozen or so preproduction models that will make their way down the line for training, quality control, testing, and press. Late summer my best guess. But regular production for customers isn't going to start till October if GM holds to Camaro's scheduled release date.

I'm not sure how you asked your dealers, but I'm pretty sure you didn't ask them about ordering a car that is not in production 6 months in advance. Dealers will be glad to take your money on anything you want to buy, and any current car in production can be ordered as far in advance as you like. If it spills into the next year's production, then they will simply move it to that following model year and advise you of any changes in price or availablity. But if there's no order sheet available, you won't be ordering one.

But then, when the NAIAS rolls around and if prices are announced, feel free to pull this post back up and I'll gladly eat crow.....as long as Camaro's intro date hasn't been moved forwards. But, I think you'll find my timeline distance from pricing & ordering to showroom is going to be accurate.

 

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You should probably do some reading before you get an attitude like that if you want your stay to be very long here.

 

I hate to go against the board like this. But it seems like there were a few "officials" that said it would be out in late '08. Scott says February of '09 so thats what I believe, but I could also see how people could find credible information saying late '08.
As to the pricing. I seem to remember someone from GM saying that they wouldn't start taking orders until they announced pricing and that they wanted to presell the entire first year before they hit showrooms. I don't think this will happen but I would also be surprised if they waited until January of '09 to release pricing. I suspect they will release the info at the start of production at the latest. But I have no solid evidence pointing to such, its just my personal opinion.

 

Coming here and rattling off a hundred posts in a short amount of time doesn't mean jack if the posts are you spouting off to people who know what they are talking about. The way you construct your posts, you aren't going to win many friends and probably won't learn very much. You are challenging and talking down to a group of people who collectively know more about the next Camaro than anyone else, anywhere else. That's no joke. Had the same problem on other sites and found yourself unwelcome? You need to ease up on this site, the same can happen here.

 

(start emerill voice/) BAM!!! (/end emerill voice)

 

Not that I am an insider or anything close. I just pay attention in class and take good notes.

 

Well there's your problem.

 

So why are you here? If you feel that these forums are less of a reliable source than "websights dealers or friends" and you plan on leaving here as soon as you get your new Camaro....(which you will probably get tired of just as quickly)....then why bother in the first place?