Vaccum Question
#1
Vaccum Question
Does anyone know how much vaccum you need in order for your brakes to work properly? I am running a 240/240 595/595 112 lsa, and after the car warms up, I checked the manifold vaccum with a guage and it is only making 9"!!! I dont have any vaccum leaks to my knowledge. My car idles at about 925-950 (M6). My IAC counts are at about 77..I called TPiS, being they are the cam designers, they said to close my throttle blades a bit, and readjust the TPS. But wouldnt this raise my IAC counts?
#4
Re: Vaccum Question
MY cam thats just a tad smaller then yours pulls just above 10" of vacuum. Brakes kinda suck dont they I know the feeling. Get a vacuum canister, it'll help a lot. They're pretty universal, and can be had for ~$50 from jegs or summit. Autozone might even carry them. If your still not satisfied, you can get a vacuum pump. Basically a little electric canister pump with a fitting. The brakes will run off of its vacuum, and not manifold vacuum. Most pumps can give ~20 lbs of vacuum, which is awesome, but some of them aren't cheap.
Blownf1: Your cam is a LOT smaller, and on a 114 lobe. Thats why you make vacuum.
Blownf1: Your cam is a LOT smaller, and on a 114 lobe. Thats why you make vacuum.
Last edited by Spinner; 09-20-2004 at 03:59 PM.
#5
Re: Vaccum Question
BlownF1, your cam is a lot smaller than mine, and its on a 114 like Spinner said, thats why you have vacuum.
Spinner, are you using a vacuum canister? I was looking at Jegs, and they have one for like 34.00. I was wondering if you think I can benefit from this? The cars brakes seem to work, but just not like they use to. I talked to a tech at TPiS, and he said that if I am facing a vacuum problem, either my brakes would work, or they wouldnt. Does that sound true? I thought the less vacuum, the less stoping power, but I guess he said its a work or no work thing..
Spinner, are you using a vacuum canister? I was looking at Jegs, and they have one for like 34.00. I was wondering if you think I can benefit from this? The cars brakes seem to work, but just not like they use to. I talked to a tech at TPiS, and he said that if I am facing a vacuum problem, either my brakes would work, or they wouldnt. Does that sound true? I thought the less vacuum, the less stoping power, but I guess he said its a work or no work thing..
#6
Re: Vaccum Question
Originally Posted by Deenasty
BlownF1, your cam is a lot smaller than mine, and its on a 114 like Spinner said, thats why you have vacuum.
Spinner, are you using a vacuum canister? I was looking at Jegs, and they have one for like 34.00. I was wondering if you think I can benefit from this? The cars brakes seem to work, but just not like they use to. I talked to a tech at TPiS, and he said that if I am facing a vacuum problem, either my brakes would work, or they wouldnt. Does that sound true? I thought the less vacuum, the less stoping power, but I guess he said its a work or no work thing..
Spinner, are you using a vacuum canister? I was looking at Jegs, and they have one for like 34.00. I was wondering if you think I can benefit from this? The cars brakes seem to work, but just not like they use to. I talked to a tech at TPiS, and he said that if I am facing a vacuum problem, either my brakes would work, or they wouldnt. Does that sound true? I thought the less vacuum, the less stoping power, but I guess he said its a work or no work thing..
#7
Re: Vaccum Question
Hey Spinner, I got home, adjusted my IAC counts, and readjusted the TPS, and installed a thicker line from my bellow (After the MAF) to the intake manifold to allow more air..I rechecked the vacuum, and now its making 11-12"!!! But im still going to get a canister
#8
Re: Vaccum Question
I'm pulling 11.5" of vacuum with my cam, and it's just BARELY considered comfortable. I don't plan on picking up a canister simply because I'm comfortable with how the brakes feel.
Good luck with yours.
Good luck with yours.
#9
Re: Vaccum Question
Originally Posted by Deenasty
BlownF1, your cam is a lot smaller than mine, and its on a 114 like Spinner said, thats why you have vacuum.
#10
Re: Vaccum Question
Originally Posted by BlownF1
I know they're different...you hadn't gotten any replies at that point and I was trying to give you a point of reference in that mine seems fine at 12-14". If you can get to that range, I think you'd be fine.
#11
Re: Vaccum Question
11-12" is the bare minimum for proper brake operation. A higher idle speed will help but a vacuum canister is often needed with that kind of vacuum and is a necessity if the vacuum is less.
Rich
Rich
#12
Re: Vaccum Question
I pull 16" at idle in park, 13" in gear, and 8" with the a/c on(drops my idle to 650rpms, but I will soon be fixing that). Even with the a/c on the brakes still work, just not that great.
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