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Old 02-04-2010, 01:55 PM   #1
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2000 Grand Prix GTP, key won't turn in ignition

I tried this on clubgp.com with no help so far...

Here is the scoop. The car developed the problem where the key did not want to be removed from the ignition. The bypass switch was a good workaround for this issue.

It's my friend's car, he's moved away and now has asked me to sell the car for him (I wish I could keep it!)

Now the car had been in storage, it has a full charge, but if you try to start it the key will not turn.

1. I tried both sets of keys nope
2. had a new key cut and tried it tonight nope
3. All the while trying to turn the wheel a bit to make sure it was locked in a position that it would prevent the key from turning.
4. tried holding in the bypass switch as well. nope.

All the keys unlock the doors no prob.

The keys he has are factory GM keys but they don't have a chip in them?

Is the ignition cylinder now toast?

thnx
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I tried this on clubgp.com with no help so far...

Here is the scoop. The car developed the problem where the key did not want to be removed from the ignition. The bypass switch was a good workaround for this issue.

It's my friend's car, he's moved away and now has asked me to sell the car for him (I wish I could keep it!)

Now the car had been in storage, it has a full charge, but if you try to start it the key will not turn.

1. I tried both sets of keys nope
2. had a new key cut and tried it tonight nope
3. All the while trying to turn the wheel a bit to make sure it was locked in a position that it would prevent the key from turning.
4. tried holding in the bypass switch as well. nope.

All the keys unlock the doors no prob.

The keys he has are factory GM keys but they don't have a chip in them?

Is the ignition cylinder now toast?

thnx
I think that would be the obvious assumption.
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Common problem... it's the ignition switch. There are posts in the Quality/Problems forum on clubgp.com about this.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:19 PM   #4
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Happened to my sister's Saturn. Cylinder is toast.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:26 PM   #5
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Common problem... it's the ignition switch. There are posts in the Quality/Problems forum on clubgp.com about this.
Everything I read in there was pointing to the solenoid for removing the key (the button located in the steering column), not for when you couldn't start the car.

Are you talking about the sticky post in there? "fan ignition switch"? Looks like someone just called it wrong.
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I had the same issue on my old 2000 Grand-Am, damn thing left me stranded at a car wash one day. I got pissed off, hit the cylinder 2-3 times with a crescent wrench and it worked fine for the rest of the time i owned the car. but yeah, time for a new switch.
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I had the same issue for a few weeks last summer (1999 grand prix), then it fixed it's self.

When my key got stuck (unable to turn all the way back to off), I could play with the shift lever. Put it in and out of park and tap the shifter button. After a few back and fourths I could feel that something gave way, and I could turn the key back to off and pull out properly.

Apparently there is a 'button" under the steering wheel that you can press in (with a thin screwdriver) to release the key, but I never had to do that.
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a friend's Ion did that few weeks ago. a auto locksmith suggested I take WD40 and spray some into the key hole. Then put key into key hole and tap head of key softly. You're hoping the tumblers are merely a little stuck.

I spent the weekend doing it, and no go, until friend called the locksmith in, and when he was there, the key turned...
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I had the same issue for a few weeks last summer (1999 grand prix), then it fixed it's self.

When my key got stuck (unable to turn all the way back to off), I could play with the shift lever. Put it in and out of park and tap the shifter button. After a few back and fourths I could feel that something gave way, and I could turn the key back to off and pull out properly.

Apparently there is a 'button" under the steering wheel that you can press in (with a thin screwdriver) to release the key, but I never had to do that.
Already tried that button as mentioned above. But it appears that is more for when the key is stuck and unable to go completely to the off position to be removed.
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Already tried that button as mentioned above. But it appears that is more for when the key is stuck and unable to go completely to the off position to be removed.
oh, that was my problem, mine would turn back but not all the way. Sounds like your situation is a different then mine then.
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So yeah, tried a bit of electrical contact cleaner and then some Release All and no dice. Gave the key a couple of love taps when it was in the ignition, jostled with it a bit, no dice.

So at this point I think it is like some said in here, it's the cylinder, NOT the ignition switch.

Would the fact that it sat for long period of time have anything remotely to do with the theftlock or the transponder device?

Turns out the chip is in the head of the key, didn't know that.

So for the cylinder, that's a deal part only and providing VIN number so you get the correct one for the car right?
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