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Old 01-14-2009, 07:24 AM
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A PG is the heat!! I went from a th350 to a PG with a custon converter and picked up .15 in the 1/8 with the same 60fts and a lot less drama off the line.

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Old 01-14-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rje
A PG is the heat!! I went from a th350 to a PG with a custon converter and picked up .15 in the 1/8 with the same 60fts and a lot less drama off the line.

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you have alot more h.p and alot more car than he does too
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mdacton
you have alot more h.p and alot more car than he does too
That may be true, but that doesn't mean it can work for him. If he gets a good converter built for his particular application, and gear it properly a PG will be as deadly a bracket car as you'll want and it's easier to drive at the starting line and down track.

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I would not put a PG behind that....

your going to end up with a dead horse. get a 350.
I agree I think at that power lever it will launch like a dead turd with a pg
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Originally Posted by rock1501
I agree I think at that power lever it will launch like a dead turd with a pg
And to answer one of my opening ?'s. What power level would be suitable?

450whp,550whp,650whp

I do not have all parts for short block yet, so compression can be adjusted, pump gas not required, preferred only.

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Originally Posted by 3DFORMULA
And to answer one of my opening ?'s. What power level would be suitable?

450whp,550whp,650whp

I do not have all parts for short block yet, so compression can be adjusted, pump gas not required, preferred only.
throw rwhp out the window that big *** converter is not going to make any rwhp, justy forget that. rwhp is for internet heros....

you never hear real drag racers talking about rwhp.....

I would hold off on the glide until your launches get too violent...wheel stands, or blowing the tires off.
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Originally Posted by rje
That may be true, but that doesn't mean it can work for him. If he gets a good converter built for his particular application, and gear it properly a PG will be as deadly a bracket car as you'll want and it's easier to drive at the starting line and down track.

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We have a winner here. This application is to build a bracket car. Soft launch (some say turdish), bat out of hell on the top end, and able to predict ET's dead on. Most who post here don't bracket race and it is a much different approach than best ET bragging rights. Only have to do you best ET once, bracket racing you have to be dead on every run. Faster in bracket racing doesn't give a whole lot of advantages. Personally I perfer having the slower car and feel it give me the advantage. Running 12.0 at 118mph with a 1.70 60' ain't much for bragging rights but it sure gets a lot of win lights on Saturday. Same can be said for the stock Mustang running 14.0's at 97mph with 2.150 60' putting 9 and 10 second cars back into their trailers. This is all about setting a car up to bracket race.
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Originally Posted by mdacton
throw rwhp out the window that big *** converter is not going to make any rwhp, justy forget that. rwhp is for internet heros....

you never hear real drag racers talking about rwhp.....

I would hold off on the glide until your launches get too violent...wheel stands, or blowing the tires off.
Man mdaction, you are dead set against a 'glide. No problem, I really appreciate your input here. I have a th350 here on garage floor also, I was just thinking that the 125-150lb difference would be sweet to take advantage of, if possible.
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Originally Posted by kazman
We have a winner here. This application is to build a bracket car. Soft launch (some say turdish), bat out of hell on the top end, and able to predict ET's dead on. Most who post here don't bracket race and it is a much different approach than best ET bragging rights. Only have to do you best ET once, bracket racing you have to be dead on every run. Faster in bracket racing doesn't give a whole lot of advantages. Personally I perfer having the slower car and feel it give me the advantage. Running 12.0 at 118mph with a 1.70 60' ain't much for bragging rights but it sure gets a lot of win lights on Saturday. Same can be said for the stock Mustang running 14.0's at 97mph with 2.150 60' putting 9 and 10 second cars back into their trailers. This is all about setting a car up to bracket race.
I could not have said it better. Otherwise I would have.
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I bracket race

My car printed the exact same number 3 passes in a row last time with a 350 trans....

a glide is not much lighter than a 350.

I ran 5 4.25 in the 330 in a ROW...... your not going to get much more consistant than that

and I still got put on the trailer 2nd round, finish margain was .019
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My turbo 400 is very sentisive to shift points. Good point is if I stage a bit too deep I can raise my shift points a to get back the .02 or .03 I lost on the launch. Bad is if I miss the shift point by 100rmp I'll be off my dial. Have to make 2 perfect shifts. Glide there is only 1 shift and you can make the shift at a physical point on the track not by rmp. This will adjust staging mistakes. I race 1/4 mile which is much less forgiving that 1/8 racing. I was beaten with a .011 package then lost first round again the following week with a .007 package (that's .002 RT and running dead on with a .005). Driver of the winning truck (that's a 9 second truck) was .002 on the tree and dead on with a .002. Footbraking Taking a .010-.019 mov is stellar top end racing.
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Originally Posted by kazman
Footbraking Taking a .010-.019 mov is stellar top end racing.
you see that every weekend here, bracket are getting tighter and tighter.....
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Originally Posted by mdacton
I bracket race

My car printed the exact same number 3 passes in a row last time with a 350 trans....

a glide is not much lighter than a 350.

I ran 5 4.25 in the 330 in a ROW...... your not going to get much more consistant than that

and I still got put on the trailer 2nd round, finish margain was .019


I bet the winner had a 2spd. just playin!
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Originally Posted by mdacton
I bracket race

My car printed the exact same number 3 passes in a row last time with a 350 trans....

a glide is not much lighter than a 350.

I ran 5 4.25 in the 330 in a ROW...... your not going to get much more consistant than that

and I still got put on the trailer 2nd round, finish margain was .019
Likewise my stock 5 speed auto mustang made a 13.694, 13.696, 13.699, (all flat out 13.70dial) and a 13.701 (tap on the brackes to close the mov) All were winning rounds 2-5. I have won several events in my turbo 400 '95 firebird. Also have wins in a stock '95 formula auto vert, a stock '95 formula auto hardtop, a '99 vette vert, a 07 Colbolt auto, and even once in my 05 diesel silverado (bracket car broke and i unhitched the trailer and raced the truck. Caught hell from my wife for running the new truck when she saw the winning picture. Point is when building a bracket car you use the best tool to race with. A glide simply is a better tool for the job. A glide is easier to launch and easier to dial the car into the tree. The softer launch will be more forgiving. A glide will help on the RT side of the equation.
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you think this guy is going to be all that serious? I bet its his first car......


he won't have a PG 6 months, b/c all his buddies are going to outrun him.

turbo 350's are king of the world!!!


everyone has an opinion.....
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