Uhm... SSR replace f-body? WTF?
09-01-2002, 11:49 PM
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Uhm... SSR replace f-body? WTF?
Alright I rember awhile back that the SSR was going to be what fills GMs market that the f-body was in.
Stuff formoctober Car and Driver
lets see
-Its ugly
-has a 290 Hp 325lbs. torque v8 but it weighs 4600 lbs. and runs a 16 flat in the 1/4 mile with stock 3.73 gears.
-gets 14mpg in the city, 18mpg on the highway
-and only cost $40k
Quick! get me to a dealer.
this thing is slower then a v6 Camaro, with 50% more power then a normal v6 f-body, and gets worse gas mileage on the highway then the average v6 f-body gets in the City, while racing. Was said ot have little cargo area and p[oor ahauling capadilites.
I think the Aztek will make more money then this.
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1994 Medium Quaser Blue Camaro 3.4L V6 w/ 5-speed
Stock blocked, boltons only.
15.696@86.22 with a 2.214 60'!
Best R/T .507 Best 60' 2.078
Father's Stock 2000 Navy Blue Camaro 3.8L V6 w/ 5-speed
15.875@88.25 With wheel spin in 1st
3.4L F-body where 15s are fast....
www.fbodyv6.com
www.firebirdv6.com
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Stuff formoctober Car and Driver
lets see
-Its ugly
-has a 290 Hp 325lbs. torque v8 but it weighs 4600 lbs. and runs a 16 flat in the 1/4 mile with stock 3.73 gears.
-gets 14mpg in the city, 18mpg on the highway
-and only cost $40k
Quick! get me to a dealer.
this thing is slower then a v6 Camaro, with 50% more power then a normal v6 f-body, and gets worse gas mileage on the highway then the average v6 f-body gets in the City, while racing. Was said ot have little cargo area and p[oor ahauling capadilites.
I think the Aztek will make more money then this.
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-Eric
1994 Medium Quaser Blue Camaro 3.4L V6 w/ 5-speed
Stock blocked, boltons only.
15.696@86.22 with a 2.214 60'!
Best R/T .507 Best 60' 2.078
Father's Stock 2000 Navy Blue Camaro 3.8L V6 w/ 5-speed
15.875@88.25 With wheel spin in 1st
3.4L F-body where 15s are fast....
www.fbodyv6.com
www.firebirdv6.com
www.camaroz28.com
AIM: MustangEater82
09-01-2002, 11:50 PM
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The new Thunderbirds have those same benefits. 
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99 Black SS A4 t-tops a ton of factory options plus white face gauges which have a disputable hp gain. (formerly V6white98, changed cars)
09-02-2002, 12:08 AM
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Man, I thought GM was actually going to build something cool when I first read about the SSR. 
I guess the same person who signed on the line to scrap the F-body is the same person who made the final decision on the SSR - GM did real well by hiring them! 
F'n GM.
Poor customers.
If only they knew...
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I guess the same person who signed on the line to scrap the F-body is the same person who made the final decision on the SSR - GM did real well by hiring them! F'n GM.
Poor customers.
If only they knew...
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2002 Z28 - A4, 2.73's, Blk/blk, leather, T-tops, sport appearance package - just bought on June 26, 2002! - Pics
1981 Z28 - 383, TH350 trans., 3.42 posi - sold August, 2000 - Pics
1973 Camaro - Dad's & my project in the works - to be built: 355 Chevy, 11.5:1 pop-ups, "camel hump" heads (w/2.02 valves), solid cam, 4-speed.....it should be quick! - Pics
09-02-2002, 01:27 AM
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Don't you just love the way GM went from real cars to trash? Look at the new GTO. It's ugly! It looks like every other car on the road! Yea, at least it's rear wheel drive and has a V8. Just give it time, soon it'll have an EcoTech badge on the side. I've seen alot of prototype cars lately from several auto makers and their all ugly pieces of plastic junk. The people that build them even admit theire only built to last until the warranty is up, most of them don't evem make it that far anymore.
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09-02-2002, 01:32 AM
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You know, if I did'nt love Trans Am's so much, and did'nt want an LS1 so bad after I pay the LT1 off, I'd probably get a Rust...I mean mustang. Only because the only import I'd consider would be a TT Supra, and I don't want to think about the cash I'd sink into it.
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09-02-2002, 09:06 AM
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No! No! NO! 
The SSR is a TRUCK. The f-body is a CAR. One was not meant to replace the other.
Moving to the 5th gen discussion where this might be better suited.
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The SSR is a TRUCK. The f-body is a CAR. One was not meant to replace the other.
Moving to the 5th gen discussion where this might be better suited.
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09-02-2002, 03:43 PM
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It does not weigh 4600 pounds. The truck it is based on, fully optioned, with Four-Wheel Drive might weigh 4600 pounds.
Don't be suprised if it gets a lot more potent drivetrains after the first year.
It isn't an F-Car. It is more like the Dodge Viper or Prowler. An image vehicle.
Not everyone thinks it is ugly as evidenced by the number of people who have lined up to buy them when they do finally get to dealers. Don't worry, GM will sell every one they can build and they won't be able to build enough of them.
Don't be suprised if it gets a lot more potent drivetrains after the first year.
It isn't an F-Car. It is more like the Dodge Viper or Prowler. An image vehicle.
Not everyone thinks it is ugly as evidenced by the number of people who have lined up to buy them when they do finally get to dealers. Don't worry, GM will sell every one they can build and they won't be able to build enough of them.
09-02-2002, 07:14 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dave1w41:
It does not weigh 4600 pounds. The truck it is based on, fully optioned, with Four-Wheel Drive might weigh 4600 pounds.
Don't be suprised if it gets a lot more potent drivetrains after the first year.
It isn't an F-Car. It is more like the Dodge Viper or Prowler. An image vehicle.
Not everyone thinks it is ugly as evidenced by the number of people who have lined up to buy them when they do finally get to dealers. Don't worry, GM will sell every one they can build and they won't be able to build enough of them.
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It does not weigh 4600 pounds. The truck it is based on, fully optioned, with Four-Wheel Drive might weigh 4600 pounds.
Don't be suprised if it gets a lot more potent drivetrains after the first year.
It isn't an F-Car. It is more like the Dodge Viper or Prowler. An image vehicle.
Not everyone thinks it is ugly as evidenced by the number of people who have lined up to buy them when they do finally get to dealers. Don't worry, GM will sell every one they can build and they won't be able to build enough of them.
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09-02-2002, 09:51 PM
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thunderbird slayer?more like windstar slayer.wow,that thing is awesome,some foolish soccer mom in her 8000 pound excursion better keep on her toes at the stoplight,with the right driver,the SSR might beat her.what a joke,40K gets a you a slow ugly turd.a v-8 chevy with SS in the name,and my miata could probably bitchslap it from a deadstop,what's the world coming to??.RIP camaro,i'm glad you won't be around to see this poor joke of truck make the aztek look good and make chevy look stupid.
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09-02-2002, 11:47 PM
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I am jsut going by some stuff I red awhile back... jsut that it might be replacing the market that the f-body had, maybe they thoght they could produce ti for less.
Either way, few pages away form this "thing" is the PT cuiser GT, goes for $22k, has a 215 hp turboed 4 banger, runs the 1/4 at 15.7, they said it shoudl do slightly better in manual trnasmission.
Isn't that the motor thats in the newon R/t that is ocming otu some day turbod 2.4L making 215hp.
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-Eric
1994 Medium Quaser Blue Camaro 3.4L V6 w/ 5-speed
Stock blocked, boltons only.
15.696@86.22 with a 2.214 60'!
Best R/T .507 Best 60' 2.078
Father's Stock 2000 Navy Blue Camaro 3.8L V6 w/ 5-speed
15.875@88.25 With wheel spin in 1st
3.4L F-body where 15s are fast....
www.fbodyv6.com
www.firebirdv6.com
www.camaroz28.com
AIM: MustangEater82
Either way, few pages away form this "thing" is the PT cuiser GT, goes for $22k, has a 215 hp turboed 4 banger, runs the 1/4 at 15.7, they said it shoudl do slightly better in manual trnasmission.
Isn't that the motor thats in the newon R/t that is ocming otu some day turbod 2.4L making 215hp.
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-Eric
1994 Medium Quaser Blue Camaro 3.4L V6 w/ 5-speed
Stock blocked, boltons only.
15.696@86.22 with a 2.214 60'!
Best R/T .507 Best 60' 2.078
Father's Stock 2000 Navy Blue Camaro 3.8L V6 w/ 5-speed
15.875@88.25 With wheel spin in 1st
3.4L F-body where 15s are fast....
www.fbodyv6.com
www.firebirdv6.com
www.camaroz28.com
AIM: MustangEater82
09-02-2002, 11:55 PM
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GM still doesn't get it. It's been known for some time that the SSR can't even hold a candle to the Lightning performance-wise, so what does GM do to compete in the sporttruck segment, give us an upcoming overweight Silverado SS that'll do no better, unless it's snowing or raining and you hope that the AWD can make a difference. 10 years ago GM had something in it's arsenal that was way more potent than either the SSR or SS, the Syclone/Typhoon.
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'81 Turbo T/A
-'75 Pontiac 400
-Richmond 5-speed/3.70's
-Holley 650cfm 4-barrel on 1/2 in. spacer, blocked exhaust crossover, 160* thermostat, Blackjack 1-5/8 in. 4 tube headers, Thrush 2-1/4in. dual exhaust kit w/ Thrush California Turbo mufflers, no A/C-no emission controls; drunk bitch induced front-end damage, placed on indefinite hiatus.
'97 Z-28
-LT1 350
-Borg Warner T56 6-speed
-descreened MAF, blocked off air silencer, TB bypassed, Flow Tech Warlock 3in. muffler w/ built-in cutout, Moroso CAI, custom cold air scoop = 277.7 rwhp/ 301.9 rwtq; add-on's since last dyno = Hypertech airfoil and 160* thermostat, B&M Ripper.
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'81 Turbo T/A
-'75 Pontiac 400
-Richmond 5-speed/3.70's
-Holley 650cfm 4-barrel on 1/2 in. spacer, blocked exhaust crossover, 160* thermostat, Blackjack 1-5/8 in. 4 tube headers, Thrush 2-1/4in. dual exhaust kit w/ Thrush California Turbo mufflers, no A/C-no emission controls; drunk bitch induced front-end damage, placed on indefinite hiatus.
'97 Z-28
-LT1 350
-Borg Warner T56 6-speed
-descreened MAF, blocked off air silencer, TB bypassed, Flow Tech Warlock 3in. muffler w/ built-in cutout, Moroso CAI, custom cold air scoop = 277.7 rwhp/ 301.9 rwtq; add-on's since last dyno = Hypertech airfoil and 160* thermostat, B&M Ripper.
