Mustang vs Camaro yearly sales totals (reference as needed)
09-09-2002, 02:22 PM
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Mustang vs Camaro yearly sales totals (reference as needed)
Since Mustang & Camaro sales have been brought up alot here lately, here is a historical list of yearly Mustang vs Camaro sales. Whenever needed, use it as a reference, or just cut & paste.
Notes:
1. Cobra production from 1965-1969 is not included (it was counted as a separate line by Ford).
2. Numbers preceded by an asterik (*) designates a redesigned .
3. I didn't include Firebird or Capri figures though they are similar cars. With Ford having only 4000 dealers to Chevrolet's 5000, I don't need to!!
Year: Mustang/Camaro
64:*121,583/NA
65: 559,451/NA
66: 607,568/NA
67: 474,121/*220,906
68: 317,404/ 235,147
68: 299,824/ 243,065
69: 299,824/ 243,065
70: 190,727/ 124,901
71:*149,678/*114,630
72: 125,093/ 114,630 (not a typo!)
73: 134,867/ 96,751
74:*385,993/ 151,008
75: 188,575/ 145,770
76: 187,567/ 182,959
77: 153,173/ 218,858
78: 192,410/ 272,631
79:*369,936/ 282,571
80: 271,322/ 152,005
81: 181,552/ 126,139
82: 130,418/*189,747
83: 120,873/ 154,318
84: 135,678/ 261,591
85: 156,514/ 180,018
86: 224,410/ 192,219
87: 159,145/ 137,760
88: 211,225/ 96,275
89: 209,769/ 110,850
90: 128,189/ 35,048
91: 98,737/ 101,316
92: 79,280/ 70,712
93: 114,228/ *39,755
94:*123,198/ 119,934
95: 185,986/ 122,844
96: 126,483/ 66,827
97: 100,254/ 95,812
98: 170,642/ 77,198
99: 126,067/ 42,098
00: 218,525/ 45,417
01: 155,162/ 29,009
(01 production stopped May 2001. 2002 had a lengthy run))
02: (not yet released)
Total 1965-2001: 7,899,556/ 4,821,768
Whenever someone has time to burn, we can add Firebird, Javelin, Barracuda, Challenger, and "fox" Capris.
Notes:
1. Cobra production from 1965-1969 is not included (it was counted as a separate line by Ford).
2. Numbers preceded by an asterik (*) designates a redesigned .
3. I didn't include Firebird or Capri figures though they are similar cars. With Ford having only 4000 dealers to Chevrolet's 5000, I don't need to!!
Year: Mustang/Camaro
64:*121,583/NA
65: 559,451/NA
66: 607,568/NA
67: 474,121/*220,906
68: 317,404/ 235,147
68: 299,824/ 243,065
69: 299,824/ 243,065
70: 190,727/ 124,901
71:*149,678/*114,630
72: 125,093/ 114,630 (not a typo!)
73: 134,867/ 96,751
74:*385,993/ 151,008
75: 188,575/ 145,770
76: 187,567/ 182,959
77: 153,173/ 218,858
78: 192,410/ 272,631
79:*369,936/ 282,571
80: 271,322/ 152,005
81: 181,552/ 126,139
82: 130,418/*189,747
83: 120,873/ 154,318
84: 135,678/ 261,591
85: 156,514/ 180,018
86: 224,410/ 192,219
87: 159,145/ 137,760
88: 211,225/ 96,275
89: 209,769/ 110,850
90: 128,189/ 35,048
91: 98,737/ 101,316
92: 79,280/ 70,712
93: 114,228/ *39,755
94:*123,198/ 119,934
95: 185,986/ 122,844
96: 126,483/ 66,827
97: 100,254/ 95,812
98: 170,642/ 77,198
99: 126,067/ 42,098
00: 218,525/ 45,417
01: 155,162/ 29,009
(01 production stopped May 2001. 2002 had a lengthy run))
02: (not yet released)
Total 1965-2001: 7,899,556/ 4,821,768
Whenever someone has time to burn, we can add Firebird, Javelin, Barracuda, Challenger, and "fox" Capris.
09-10-2002, 09:04 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by guionM:
67: 474,121/*220,906
68: 317,404/ 235,147
68: 299,824/ 243,065
69: 299,824/ 243,065
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67: 474,121/*220,906
68: 317,404/ 235,147
68: 299,824/ 243,065
69: 299,824/ 243,065
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Fantastic job! I know stuff like this takes time.
I found only 1 problem... we have 2 '68 model years listed. I don't know for the Camaro, but the 317,404 is correct for the Mustang. I think the other was just a copy/paste mishap.
Still - awesome job pulling those numbers together! I will copy/paste them to a folder for reference!
-Proud
09-10-2002, 10:44 AM
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I'd be interested to see the numbers adding in the Firebird & Capri/Cougar to the mix. I think even the Ford guys will have to admit that the Camaro's siter car was much more sucessful than the Mustangs Sister? I'm just curious how Fords Pony car stacks up against GM's?
09-10-2002, 12:12 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ProudPony:
guionM,
Fantastic job! I know stuff like this takes time.
I found only 1 problem... we have 2 '68 model years listed. I don't know for the Camaro, but the 317,404 is correct for the Mustang. I think the other was just a copy/paste mishap.
Still - awesome job pulling those numbers together! I will copy/paste them to a folder for reference!
-Proud</font>
guionM,
Fantastic job! I know stuff like this takes time.
I found only 1 problem... we have 2 '68 model years listed. I don't know for the Camaro, but the 317,404 is correct for the Mustang. I think the other was just a copy/paste mishap.
Still - awesome job pulling those numbers together! I will copy/paste them to a folder for reference!
-Proud</font>
09-10-2002, 10:25 PM
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I thought that the Camaro outsold the Mustang in 97?
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983 Z28- 406ci
LT1 intake
AFR 195's
1995 Z28- 350ci
A4, leather, T-tops bone stock for now.
250 RWHP 300 RWT
14.0 @ 99 MPH on a 2.2 60'
09-11-2002, 02:29 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by super83Z:
I thought that the Camaro outsold the Mustang in 97?
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I thought that the Camaro outsold the Mustang in 97?
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Just the same, 95,000 vs 100,000 is nothing to be ashamed of at by a long shot!
09-11-2002, 02:33 PM
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Wanted to post this on this thread as well for a one stop future reference as well.
Quick Camaro vs Mustang facts:
*Mustang sold 1,291,544 cars before Camaro came out (Ford made alot of money because it was just a reskinned Falcon).
*Between the years of 1967 (the first year of Camaro) and 1998 Camaro sold 4,734,253 to Mustang's 6,108,240
*Camaro's best year was 1979 (282,571)
*Mustang's best year was 1966 (607,568)
*Camaro outsold Mustang in 1977, 1978,1984,1985, and finally in 1991.
*When Camaro came out (1967) Mustang sales dropped 133,000 units over the previous year.
*1st year of the gen2 Camaro, sales dropped by 10,000 cars. The gen3 increased sales by 63,000, gen 4, you can't honestly say because of the artificially low production of the 93's (39,000), but the 94s sold 49,000 more than the 91's.
*Mustang's 2nd gen dropped sales 41,000, MustangII increased sales by 240,000 cars(!), the fox Mustang increased sales by 177,000, the SN95 upped sales by 9,000. The 99 restyle dropped sales by 44,000 cars, but sales jumped by 90,000 the following year.
*Mustang outsold Camaro by over 2 to one in 1967,1974,1988,1996,1998,1999,2000,2001,2002 (I didn't include 1990 &1993 because those were short production runs for Camaro).
*The margins Camaro outsold Mustang in order of size): 1984(126,000), 1977(65,000), 1982(59,000), 1983(30,000), 1991(3,000).
*Ford has about 4,000 dealers. Chevrolet has over 5,000.
Quick Camaro vs Mustang facts:
*Mustang sold 1,291,544 cars before Camaro came out (Ford made alot of money because it was just a reskinned Falcon).
*Between the years of 1967 (the first year of Camaro) and 1998 Camaro sold 4,734,253 to Mustang's 6,108,240
*Camaro's best year was 1979 (282,571)
*Mustang's best year was 1966 (607,568)
*Camaro outsold Mustang in 1977, 1978,1984,1985, and finally in 1991.
*When Camaro came out (1967) Mustang sales dropped 133,000 units over the previous year.
*1st year of the gen2 Camaro, sales dropped by 10,000 cars. The gen3 increased sales by 63,000, gen 4, you can't honestly say because of the artificially low production of the 93's (39,000), but the 94s sold 49,000 more than the 91's.
*Mustang's 2nd gen dropped sales 41,000, MustangII increased sales by 240,000 cars(!), the fox Mustang increased sales by 177,000, the SN95 upped sales by 9,000. The 99 restyle dropped sales by 44,000 cars, but sales jumped by 90,000 the following year.
*Mustang outsold Camaro by over 2 to one in 1967,1974,1988,1996,1998,1999,2000,2001,2002 (I didn't include 1990 &1993 because those were short production runs for Camaro).
*The margins Camaro outsold Mustang in order of size): 1984(126,000), 1977(65,000), 1982(59,000), 1983(30,000), 1991(3,000).
*Ford has about 4,000 dealers. Chevrolet has over 5,000.
09-13-2002, 12:35 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IZ28:
We might have more dealers but the M*****g is also a cheaper car, which works for them. You might get more power and everything with a Camaro, but its not as affordable.</font>
We might have more dealers but the M*****g is also a cheaper car, which works for them. You might get more power and everything with a Camaro, but its not as affordable.</font>
09-14-2002, 11:34 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IZ28:
We might have more dealers but the M*****g is also a cheaper car, which works for them. You might get more power and everything with a Camaro, but its not as affordable.</font>
We might have more dealers but the M*****g is also a cheaper car, which works for them. You might get more power and everything with a Camaro, but its not as affordable.</font>
As far as power/dollar - LS1's have it all the way home. As long as we don't go throwing all the bells and whistles on it - just base V8 cars. Go to this thread and count down to the 16th post - and enjoy the roasting that Mustang guys put on a Mustang owner about who had the best "performance value"!
Depends on the individuals POV, doesn't it?
10-23-2002, 10:03 PM
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Re: Mustang vs Camaro yearly sales totals (reference as needed)
I've had these around (Capri & Firebird production numbers) so I incorperated them into the Camaro/Mustang list.
Notes:
1. Cobra production from 1965-1969 is not included (it was counted as a separate line by Ford).
2. Numbers preceded by an asterik (*) designates a redesigned version.
Year: Mustang ("fox" Capri)/Camaro (Firebird)/AMC Javelin
64:*121,583/NA
65: 559,451/NA
66: 607,568/NA
67: 474,121/ *220,906(82,560)
68: 317,404/ 235,147(107,112) 63,169
69: 299,824/ 243,065(87,708) 48,968
70: 190,727/ 124,901(48,739) --------
71:*149,678/ *114,630(53,124) 27,554
72: 125,093/ 114,630..not a typo!(29,951) 26,184
73: 134,867/ 96,751(46,313) 27,536
74:*385,993/ 151,008(73,729) 29,536
75: 188,575/ 145,770(84,063)
76: 187,567/ 182,959(110,775)
77: 153,173/ 218,858(155,736!)
78: 192,410/ 272,631(187,285!!)
79:*369,936(110,144 Capri)/ 282,571(211,455!
)
80: 271,322(79,984 Capri)/ 152,005(191,340)
81: 181,552(58,946 Capri)/ 126,139(70,899)
82: 130,418(36,134 Capri)/ *189,747(116,362)
83: 120,873(25,376 Capri)/ 154,318(74,884)
84: 135,678(20,642 Capri)/ 261,591(128,304)
85: 156,514(18,657 Capri)/ 180,018(95,880)
86: 224,410(20,869 Capri)/ 192,219(110,463)
87: 159,145/ 137,760(88,612)
88: 211,225/ 96,275(62,467)
89: 209,769/ 110,850(64,406)
90: 128,189/ 35,048(20,553)
91: 98,737/ 101,316(50,247)
92: 79,280/ 70,712(27,567)
93: 114,228/ *39,755(14,313)
94:*123,198/ 119,934(45,615)
95: 185,986/ 122,844(51,730)
96: 126,483/ 66,827(31,023)
97: 100,254/ 95,812(30,754)
98: 170,642/ 77,198(32,157)
99: 126,067/ 42,098(36,219)
00: 218,525/ 45,417(?)
01: 155,162/ 29,009 (?)
(01 production stopped May 2001. 2002 had a lengthy run))
02: (not yet released)
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I'll post Barracuda/Challenger later.
Notes:
1. Cobra production from 1965-1969 is not included (it was counted as a separate line by Ford).
2. Numbers preceded by an asterik (*) designates a redesigned version.
Year: Mustang ("fox" Capri)/Camaro (Firebird)/AMC Javelin
64:*121,583/NA
65: 559,451/NA
66: 607,568/NA
67: 474,121/ *220,906(82,560)
68: 317,404/ 235,147(107,112) 63,169
69: 299,824/ 243,065(87,708) 48,968
70: 190,727/ 124,901(48,739) --------
71:*149,678/ *114,630(53,124) 27,554
72: 125,093/ 114,630..not a typo!(29,951) 26,184
73: 134,867/ 96,751(46,313) 27,536
74:*385,993/ 151,008(73,729) 29,536
75: 188,575/ 145,770(84,063)
76: 187,567/ 182,959(110,775)
77: 153,173/ 218,858(155,736!)
78: 192,410/ 272,631(187,285!!)
79:*369,936(110,144 Capri)/ 282,571(211,455!
)80: 271,322(79,984 Capri)/ 152,005(191,340)
81: 181,552(58,946 Capri)/ 126,139(70,899)
82: 130,418(36,134 Capri)/ *189,747(116,362)
83: 120,873(25,376 Capri)/ 154,318(74,884)
84: 135,678(20,642 Capri)/ 261,591(128,304)
85: 156,514(18,657 Capri)/ 180,018(95,880)
86: 224,410(20,869 Capri)/ 192,219(110,463)
87: 159,145/ 137,760(88,612)
88: 211,225/ 96,275(62,467)
89: 209,769/ 110,850(64,406)
90: 128,189/ 35,048(20,553)
91: 98,737/ 101,316(50,247)
92: 79,280/ 70,712(27,567)
93: 114,228/ *39,755(14,313)
94:*123,198/ 119,934(45,615)
95: 185,986/ 122,844(51,730)
96: 126,483/ 66,827(31,023)
97: 100,254/ 95,812(30,754)
98: 170,642/ 77,198(32,157)
99: 126,067/ 42,098(36,219)
00: 218,525/ 45,417(?)
01: 155,162/ 29,009 (?)
(01 production stopped May 2001. 2002 had a lengthy run))
02: (not yet released)
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I'll post Barracuda/Challenger later.
10-23-2002, 11:18 PM
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Here's the correct Third Gen numbers against just the M*****g.
Production 82-92
Camaro
1982: 189,747- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1983: 154,831- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1984: 261,591- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1985: 180,018- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1986: 192,219
1987: 137,760
1988: 96,275
1989: 110,739
1990: 34,896
1991: 100,838- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1992: 70,007
Firebird
1982: 116,364
1983: 74,884
1984: 128,304
1985: 95,880
1986: 110,465
1987: 88,612
1988: 62,445
1989: 64,409
1990: 20,553
1991: 51,184
1992: 27,569
F-Body Total
1982: 306,111- Beats M*****g
1983: 229,715- Beats M*****g
1984: 389,895- Beats M*****g
1985: 275,898- Beats M*****g
1986: 302,684- Beats M*****g
1987: 226,372- Beats M*****g
1988: 158,720
1989: 175,148
1990: 55,422
1991: 152,022- Beats M*****g
1992: 97,576- Beats M*****g
M*****g Totals
1982: 130,418
1983: 120,873
1984: 141,482
1985: 156,514
1986: 224,410
1987: 159,145
1988: 211,225- F-Body lost
1989: 209,769- F-Body lost
1990: 128,189- F-Body lost
1991: 98,737
1992: 79,280
Production 82-92
Camaro
1982: 189,747- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1983: 154,831- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1984: 261,591- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1985: 180,018- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1986: 192,219
1987: 137,760
1988: 96,275
1989: 110,739
1990: 34,896
1991: 100,838- beats M*****g without needing Firebirds sales
1992: 70,007
Firebird
1982: 116,364
1983: 74,884
1984: 128,304
1985: 95,880
1986: 110,465
1987: 88,612
1988: 62,445
1989: 64,409
1990: 20,553
1991: 51,184
1992: 27,569
F-Body Total
1982: 306,111- Beats M*****g
1983: 229,715- Beats M*****g
1984: 389,895- Beats M*****g
1985: 275,898- Beats M*****g
1986: 302,684- Beats M*****g
1987: 226,372- Beats M*****g
1988: 158,720
1989: 175,148
1990: 55,422
1991: 152,022- Beats M*****g
1992: 97,576- Beats M*****g
M*****g Totals
1982: 130,418
1983: 120,873
1984: 141,482
1985: 156,514
1986: 224,410
1987: 159,145
1988: 211,225- F-Body lost
1989: 209,769- F-Body lost
1990: 128,189- F-Body lost
1991: 98,737
1992: 79,280
10-24-2002, 05:15 AM
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minor detail: the mustang was redesigned in 1969, not 1971.
just a couple of notes for those who are counting:
during the years the f-bodies and the mustang/capri were both in production (67-02), there have been more total f-bodies built than mustangs/capris. surprising, but true.
f-body won in year-to-year production 20 times; lost 16 times. HALF of those 16 losses were in the 4th gen. what a surprise! (sarcasm)
2nd gen and 3rd gen easily outsold same-era mustang/capri by a wide margin; 1st gen came agonizingly close but fell just short. 4th gen was WAY behind in sales compared to same-era mustang. what a surprise (sarcasm again)
opinions are opinions but hard facts are hard to argue with re: f-body demise.
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just a couple of notes for those who are counting:
during the years the f-bodies and the mustang/capri were both in production (67-02), there have been more total f-bodies built than mustangs/capris. surprising, but true.
f-body won in year-to-year production 20 times; lost 16 times. HALF of those 16 losses were in the 4th gen. what a surprise! (sarcasm)
2nd gen and 3rd gen easily outsold same-era mustang/capri by a wide margin; 1st gen came agonizingly close but fell just short. 4th gen was WAY behind in sales compared to same-era mustang. what a surprise (sarcasm again)
opinions are opinions but hard facts are hard to argue with re: f-body demise.
GT
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