GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
#1
GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
Just saw this article in Detroit News about GM shutting down it's Romulus, MI plant for retooling in anticipation of a new V-6 that's supposed to come online in 2015.
GM to temporarily lay off 560 workers at Romulus plant | The Detroit News
The article uses the term "fuel-sipping" in one of the sentences.
Have we heard about this new V-6 engine?
If so, what do we know about it?
GM to temporarily lay off 560 workers at Romulus plant | The Detroit News
The article uses the term "fuel-sipping" in one of the sentences.
Have we heard about this new V-6 engine?
If so, what do we know about it?
#2
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
And this from Automotive.com:
GM Announces Investment in New Tiny Ecotec Engines, New V-6, and 8-Speed Automatic Transmission - Automotive News
5th paragraph:
GM Announces Investment in New Tiny Ecotec Engines, New V-6, and 8-Speed Automatic Transmission - Automotive News
5th paragraph:
In addition, there will be a new V-6 engine that we assume would eventually replace the “High Feature” 3.6-liter V-6 in some applications, if not complement it in others. We have it on good authority that the 2015 Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon will have a V-6 available, likely a version of the 3.6-liter engine or this new engine instead of the 4.3-liter V-6 used in the full-size Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra.
#3
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
All I read was a story about hourly and temporary workers getting laid off and told to bit the dust while GM spends millions building up their new super duper plant and keeping the salaried or more likely contract workers on payroll. Seems just like the standard company logic. Invest millions into everything but the longevity of a good dependable worker. I feel sorry for those folks. That's a lot of people out of jobs that need them. They should have taken 1 Million of that and figured out a program to train these workers for their new factory or given them some job to do to keep them on payroll until the plant was done. I'm willing to bet the person(s) in charge of that idea aren't worried about the roof over their head or paying their bills.
#4
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
Then you didn't read the article closely enough.
retools the plant for a new V-6 engine that will come online in late 2015.
investment for a new fuel-sipping V-6 engine
The plant will only make the new V-6 engine
#5
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
Car and Driver speculated a few years ago that GM would introduce a new V-6, guessing that it could displace 2.8 or 3.0 liters.
Could this be that engine?
Could this be that engine?
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#7
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
All I read was a story about hourly and temporary workers getting laid off and told to bit the dust while GM spends millions building up their new super duper plant and keeping the salaried or more likely contract workers on payroll. Seems just like the standard company logic. Invest millions into everything but the longevity of a good dependable worker. I feel sorry for those folks. That's a lot of people out of jobs that need them. They should have taken 1 Million of that and figured out a program to train these workers for their new factory or given them some job to do to keep them on payroll until the plant was done. I'm willing to bet the person(s) in charge of that idea aren't worried about the roof over their head or paying their bills.
GM workers can file for unemployment benefits and will receive supplemental pay during the layoffs that for most workers equals about 75-80 percent of their pay. The temporary workers who are laid off will not receive the extra support, Wheeler said.
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2VmsEzGW1
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2VmsEzGW1
Likely, before things get back into full swing, workers will be brought back 2 to 3 months (maybe longer) before production is officially "online" to train them how to use the new equipment and assemble the new engine.
Last edited by Silverado C-10; 06-10-2013 at 12:14 AM.
#8
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
If you remember what GM's old lineup looked like it was mostly mid sized family Sedans,Trucks,The F-bodies, and the Corvette. If you recall around the early to mid 2000's that's when Japanese and Korean manufacturers started flooding us with compact cars, family sedans,trucks, SUV's, etc. etc. that were not only affordable but very reliable as well. Foreign cars started taking up a big chunk of the market and GM has never really recovered from that to regain the volume of car sales they "used" to have.
A Chevrolet lot selection today looks a lot different than the one 10-15 years ago. Now you see a few trucks,a few Camaro's,a few corvettes, a few sedans but you will see floods of economy cars. It's almost the opposite how it used to look.
The reason GM is doing this level of investment and restructuring itself in the first place is to build more economically efficient vehicles because that's what the current market is demanding. If they can build a more efficient V6 or hybrid car they will. Things are going to be changing a lot in the next decade with GM. If you want a performance car you're going to have to really pay for it as their main focus is going to be mostly on economic vehicles. Just the fact that there is a 50K+ Camaro as a hint of what's to come I don't know what to tell you. All these V8 performance models have skyrocketed because sustaining their production and development costs them more so it's going to costs you more as well. The market sales that's keeping the GM boat floating aren't in a Camaro SS they're in cars like the Malibu. So you can expect to see GM trying to create an economic efficient Camaro or possibly even Corvette, in the future just like Ford is doing with the Mustang currently.
I was just making a statement that GM has the money to retain their workers, and they have enough people there on their payroll to come up with a way to keep those workers on their payroll while they upgrade their plant. What you fail to understand is that by cutting them those working 40+ hours a week will now be filing for unemployment and the US tax payer is going to be taking the bill. Don't for a second not think that someone in GM's offices doesn't figure these things out already. They save more by cutting them than keeping them. When they could finally figure out to build a successful and reliable car you need to invests into your employees as well. BTw,they are going to get paid for doing nothing (those that qualify for unemployment) end the end.
#9
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
Not that it's not a good discussion, but lets try to stay on topic, which is the new V-6 engine.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised this thread is not taking off.
10 years ago, it probably would have been 2 pages long by now.
Surprised no one is really commenting on it.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised this thread is not taking off.
10 years ago, it probably would have been 2 pages long by now.
Surprised no one is really commenting on it.
#10
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
From GM media website:
From wikipedia:
From this I would deduce that they are going to build a more fuel efficient engine to replace the standard 4.3L V6, so I'm not sure the comments from the second article on the 3.6L V6 actually apply to Romulus.
Facility Details
Romulus Engine employs nearly 800 people. Hourly employees are represented by UAW Local 163. The plant produces a variety of V6 and V8 engines that power GM's portfolio. Romulus-built engines are also used for marine and industrial applications. Over 477,000 engines were produced in the 2012 calendar year. Historically, the plant has a long-standing reputation of quality, productivity and performance.
Products & Production
Products & 2011 CY Volume:
V-6: 79,406
V-8: 397,941
Romulus Engine employs nearly 800 people. Hourly employees are represented by UAW Local 163. The plant produces a variety of V6 and V8 engines that power GM's portfolio. Romulus-built engines are also used for marine and industrial applications. Over 477,000 engines were produced in the 2012 calendar year. Historically, the plant has a long-standing reputation of quality, productivity and performance.
Products & Production
Products & 2011 CY Volume:
V-6: 79,406
V-8: 397,941
Products
4.3L V6
Gen IV V-8
4.3L V6
Gen IV V-8
#11
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
There's already an engine to replace the old small block based 4.3 V-6; it's the new LT1 based 4.3. But that's already in production.
I would think the 4.3s (old or new) would not be considered "fuel sipping".
Unless it's a smaller displacement version of the new 4.3.
And we know the new Gen V V-8 replaces the Gen IV V-8.
I'm thinking it'll be a smaller displacement version of the 3.6 HF.
I would think the 4.3s (old or new) would not be considered "fuel sipping".
Unless it's a smaller displacement version of the new 4.3.
And we know the new Gen V V-8 replaces the Gen IV V-8.
I'm thinking it'll be a smaller displacement version of the 3.6 HF.
#13
Re: GM is launching a new V-6 in 2015?
I don't see why you guys think GM would go with a smaller displacement. Seems to me like the small V6 has been replaced by the turbo 4cyl. From here on out anything under 280HP will probably be a 4cyl.
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