CTSi testing in Germany!
08-02-2002, 10:47 AM
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CTSi testing in Germany!
08-02-2002, 11:41 AM
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I guess we finally got our version of the Commodore SS. Too bad it's going to cost 40 grand.
Unless Cadillac is going to eventially put a supercherged Northstar V8 (currently not likely), I don't think that when we do get RWD sedans at Chevrolet & Pontiac that they will have LS1s (would be CTSi, but 10 grand less).
Unless Cadillac is going to eventially put a supercherged Northstar V8 (currently not likely), I don't think that when we do get RWD sedans at Chevrolet & Pontiac that they will have LS1s (would be CTSi, but 10 grand less).
08-02-2002, 11:53 AM
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CTSi with manual tranny only? Wow, not too bad, i bet it'll be T56.
That's actually pretty good, it should be in mid to high 13's in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how much those things weigh? I'd imagine they are heavier than fbodies.
That's actually pretty good, it should be in mid to high 13's in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how much those things weigh? I'd imagine they are heavier than fbodies.
08-03-2002, 12:59 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by muckz:
CTSi with manual tranny only? Wow, not too bad, i bet it'll be T56.
That's actually pretty good, it should be in mid to high 13's in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how much those things weigh? I'd imagine they are heavier than fbodies.</font>
CTSi with manual tranny only? Wow, not too bad, i bet it'll be T56.
That's actually pretty good, it should be in mid to high 13's in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how much those things weigh? I'd imagine they are heavier than fbodies.</font>
This thing should be good for LOW 13's, especially if the LS1 gets some tweaking between now & then.
08-03-2002, 02:14 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by muckz:
CTSi with manual tranny only? Wow, not too bad, i bet it'll be T56.
That's actually pretty good, it should be in mid to high 13's in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how much those things weigh? I'd imagine they are heavier than fbodies.</font>
CTSi with manual tranny only? Wow, not too bad, i bet it'll be T56.
That's actually pretty good, it should be in mid to high 13's in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how much those things weigh? I'd imagine they are heavier than fbodies.</font>
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08-03-2002, 02:26 AM
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Wait a second...
Bob Lutz was quoted as saying that the LS6 was going to go into the CTSi. But now it seems like only the LS1. So what gives?
And also an M3 is right behind a Z06 in all categories, right? So an LS1 won't give enough scoot to the CTSi keep up with the M3. I wouldn't know about the M5 since it is heavier. But it would seem like the LS6 would be neeed, not the LS1.
So what gives?
Bob Lutz was quoted as saying that the LS6 was going to go into the CTSi. But now it seems like only the LS1. So what gives?
And also an M3 is right behind a Z06 in all categories, right? So an LS1 won't give enough scoot to the CTSi keep up with the M3. I wouldn't know about the M5 since it is heavier. But it would seem like the LS6 would be neeed, not the LS1.
So what gives?
08-03-2002, 01:45 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Burmite:
And also an M3 is right behind a Z06 in all categories, right? So an LS1 won't give enough scoot to the CTSi keep up with the M3. I wouldn't know about the M5 since it is heavier. But it would seem like the LS6 would be neeed, not the LS1.
So what gives?</font>
And also an M3 is right behind a Z06 in all categories, right? So an LS1 won't give enough scoot to the CTSi keep up with the M3. I wouldn't know about the M5 since it is heavier. But it would seem like the LS6 would be neeed, not the LS1.
So what gives?</font>
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08-03-2002, 02:05 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z28Wilson:
Lutz did originally say the LS6 would be in the CTSi, wonder what happened there...
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Lutz did originally say the LS6 would be in the CTSi, wonder what happened there...
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All the press reports seem to categorize it as a 350 hp LS1.
The motor in the prototype however is an LS6 with a ZO6 spec T56 tranny.
08-05-2002, 11:25 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pnbarbee:
According to carpoint, 3568 for the auto, and 3509 for the manual. That's less than a Z28 convertible.
This thing should be good for LOW 13's, especially if the LS1 gets some tweaking between now & then.</font>
According to carpoint, 3568 for the auto, and 3509 for the manual. That's less than a Z28 convertible.
This thing should be good for LOW 13's, especially if the LS1 gets some tweaking between now & then.</font>
08-06-2002, 03:24 PM
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Well what I meant by the M3 being right behind the Z06, although I'm probably off due to the info, was that I remember a Motor Trend issue a while back where they tested an M3 versus a Z06. The M3 kept up extremely well with the Z06 even though the Z06 won. It was that article where even though the Z06 spanked the other two cars, they called the M3 the winner because it was a better "everyday car" with a back seat. I know the Motor Trend drivers can't even drive a riding lawn mower. Note taken. But anyways, I've heard of Z06's going near 12.0 flat in the quarter although it seems better to take out the perfect driver and stick in there a 12.3 time. I'm not sure what an M3 does in the quarter though. But I'm wondering if the M3 kept up with the Z06 in some way, then take away 50 horses and add in some weight to the car and you have the CTSi. I'm wondering how much faster it would be. True, 333hp versus 350hp. But also keep in mind you have to shift the CTSi at 6000 rpms while the M3 will scream up to 8000 rpms. That makes up some of the difference. So really, can anyone answer this dilema?
BTW. What did happen to Lutz putting in the LS6? Can anyone clarify that?
BTW. What did happen to Lutz putting in the LS6? Can anyone clarify that?
08-07-2002, 09:10 AM
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