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Old 07-20-2002, 04:01 PM
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Exclamation 2000 Camaro ZL1. THIS is how the 5th gens should perform:)

Check this out:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$...20Concept.html

Not that GM would even consider it, but that's how the 5th gens should perform, or at least have that option
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An option? That would be cool. With a $70,000+ price tag to go with it.

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Yep, a sweet machine Jon Moss put together. Production car? I think they'd sooner let me build my own car at GM than build the ZL1.

BTW if you really want to see some ignorant, downright funny posts read the couple of threads on the car at the bottom of the page.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z28Wilson:
Yep, a sweet machine Jon Moss put together. Production car? I think they'd sooner let me build my own car at GM than build the ZL1.

BTW if you really want to see some ignorant, downright funny posts read the couple of threads on the car at the bottom of the page.

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You mean that frustrated loud mouthed kid that stutters when he types?

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Old 07-22-2002, 12:19 AM
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lol Yah, some people are just great. Their mom doesn't let them out of the basement, so they have to vent somehow.
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Hahahaha! Yeah, right.

I am not sure if I am at liberty to quote exact numbers, but that ZL1 is an R&D car and all in all over the years, it cost GM between $500,000 and $1,000,000.

Even if they built it at a respectable price, it would not sell well because it would be incrediubly impractical, I am sorry to say. "Too much" power is one thing that made the current f-body not sell well. Some people actually said "I don't need that much power" and headed over the Ford dealership. Sad but true.

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Wow, that is sad. I wonder if that's what some people will say about the new cobra then?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by newby:
Wow, that is sad. I wonder if that's what some people will say about the new cobra then? </font>
The Cobra is limited, right? A 305 hp Z28 is not. The Cobra will sell well to the collectors and weekend racers.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JasonD:
The Cobra is limited, right? A 305 hp Z28 is not. The Cobra will sell well to the collectors and weekend racers.


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Isn't it the base Camaros that need alot of help, and not so much the Z28?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JasonD:
Hahahaha! Yeah, right.

I am not sure if I am at liberty to quote exact numbers, but that ZL1 is an R&D car and all in all over the years, it cost GM between $500,000 and $1,000,000.

Even if they built it at a respectable price, it would not sell well because it would be incrediubly impractical, I am sorry to say. "Too much" power is one thing that made the current f-body not sell well. Some people actually said "I don't need that much power" and headed over the Ford dealership. Sad but true.

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I think you are right. I think it's a sign of the times as much as anything. The fact is this country is now all about some loser suing someone else because said loser made a bad decision. Hypothetical example: loser gives a brand new $35,000 500 HP f-body to their 16 yr old who promptly goes and smashes it up, killing themselves and several other people. Said loser (who like many people these days isn't willing to be responsible for their own actions), then sues GM saying that GM's negligence killed their son/daughter.

Now, recall the 1st gen Camaros where you could order special hi-po engine set-ups through dealers like Yenko. The option wasn't widely publicised and well known to the average joe schmoe (like said moron described above). But those of us who wanted it and understood the implications (and therefore probably would be responsible enough to handle it) could have it.

I would like to see GM do this. Of course it will never happen in this day and age. After all it's not good business sense to spend money on something and then not advertise it.

Hey, in fact just like the f-body .
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God! that car has been around the block a few times

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