How do i shoot flames out of my muffler?

Everytime i watch Fast and furious (yea i know rice!) :)
When they're racing i love the flames i wanna know how to do that will do whatever it takews just bcause it's so freggin cool

I have seen some old hot rods that have rigged a spark pluf in the tip of the muffler and hooked it up to a switch. When the switch is hit, it sends a spark to the plug which ignites the unburnt fuel in the exhaust fumes. I dont know exactly how it works but thats the best I can expain it. As for the Fast and the Furious flames, I beleive that it is possible for turbo charged cars to shoot flames. I dont know for sure why though. Probably becasue they are running so rich.:confused:

They sell flamethrower kits, I'm just not sure where. Also, I think you have to have a gutted cat in order for enough unburnt fuel to get through.

http://www.gotflames.net/ they sell a kit.

This flame effect can also be produced from the incredible spark retard and fuel mixture changes resulting from using a high-end turbo lag controller, but I doubt that the directors knew / cared about that.

Or I'm sure for the movie, they used a propane system to get those ultra blue clean burning flames.

a easy way to do it is if u have nitrous run the purge to the exhaust and every time you purgu a huge flame will come out....


or run a sparkplug there and have a switch on it

you have to cut the spark to the motor so raw gas shoots down the exhust, and have a cap and plug hooked up the the exhaust tips. also you cant have a cat and running raw gas throught the motor will eventually destroy it because it disapates the oil causing friction problems (thats why its a show car thing)

i saw an episode of trucks! on Tnn, he used a kit w/ everything included

Get a kit.

On Supraforums.com, there is a member named Brad Mayo (that's his screenname) who has an MKIV Supra Turbo with a flamethrower on his muffler. I've seen videos of it, and it's pretty cool.

Go there and ask him about it.

-Nitrous in a non-flamable gas, adding spark to Nitrous alone will not ignite anything. Therefor how exactly would running a purge valve to your exhaust create a flame? Also I would not feel very safe adding fuel to a Nitrous purge valve in my exhaust system to create flames........I mean holy crap are you insane? Your asking to get blown up.


-Also, just adding a spark plug in the exhaust system will not work in todays cars. they are much too clean burning even without CATS. The old fuel guzzling overly rich carberated muscle cars of the 60's could achive this easliy as my dad has told be stories of his old GTO throwing flames out the back.

-The Kits seem to be the only way to SAFELY acheive this. However make sure you dont ruin your chrome exhaust tips and melt your rear bumber trying this. Oh did I meantion to NOT use it infront of the police?? IT IS ILLEAGAL:D

i beg to differ......my car shoots a flame or too out the exhaust.....it runs rich and with a spark plug im almost positive it will alwys do that....but get tip extensions or something cuz your bumper would shoot up in flames.....

but i think its possibly as a matter of fact there was a ta that had that done i think pics were either here or ls1.com or ls1tech.com

Originally posted by stik6shift98
i beg to differ......my car shoots a flame or too out the exhaust.....it runs rich and with a spark plug im almost positive it will alwys do that....but get tip extensions or something cuz your bumper would shoot up in flames.....

but i think its possibly as a matter of fact there was a ta that had that done i think pics were either here or ls1.com or ls1tech.com

Not gunna happen:think:

Originally posted by stik6shift98
i beg to differ......my car shoots a flame or too out the exhaust.....it runs rich ......

:bs:

check this thread
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=269012

If I shot flames out of my mufflers I would most likely catch my car on fire...if you shot flames out of your muffler (assuming you have stock exhaust) I would say you'd catch the gas tank on fire and go boom...shooting flames out the end exhaust pipe/tips, that's a different story ;)

Now, for my real input, re-read TriPinTaZ's first post.

My way of thinking...Propane is the best way, regardless. You can control the flame by the amount of gas you feed it. Any other way (spark plug, whatever) you are just gonna get some fire...you can't even really consider it a good "flame."

Also, read Alex's thread (catsnet).

there was a member on this board who posted an mpg of his Z shooting flames at night. long tubes, no cats, Hooker cat back. do a search

then another guy said to rig a switch to the A.I.R. pump to increase the flame. very cool. i'm considering it for those idiots who stop 2"-3" from my rear bumper in traffic.

As Stacey indicated on TrucksTV, it is not for catalytic converters. So don't bother attempting it if you have one.

Cars can shoot flames out without the use of a flamethrower kit. But on a typical street car its unlikely.

Mine does it, but the following conditions are met...
A) My exhaust is about 36 inches long
B) I'm running overlapping intake and exhaust valves (aka) a race motor.

Originally posted by TriPinTaZ
-Nitrous in a non-flamable gas, adding spark to Nitrous alone will not ignite anything. Therefor how exactly would running a purge valve to your exhaust create a flame? Also I would not feel very safe adding fuel to a Nitrous purge valve in my exhaust system to create flames........I mean holy crap are you insane? Your asking to get blown up.



And 95% of your posts are helpful huh Stik?
:rolleyes:

Anyways, does anyone know of any f-bodies shooting flames? No one i know personally ever did it or plans on it.

Originally posted by chesee48
Anyways, does anyone know of any f-bodies shooting flames? No one i know personally ever did it or plans on it.

Mine does. And after I replace the exhaust to come all the way to the rear, I plan on keeping flame throwers.

I've also seen another '79 Z28 that ran tractor pipes out of the hood, you could watch each individual cylinder fire.
1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. Freakin' Awesome!!!

Its more popular on us peeps with older cars, primarily because of the lack of catalytic converters.

Originally posted by chesee48
And 95% of your posts are helpful huh Stik?
:rolleyes:

Anyways, does anyone know of any f-bodies shooting flames? No one i know personally ever did it or plans on it.


I hope those rolling eyes arent for me!!!
nitrous is a NON FLAMABLE gas. Only when mixed with a combustible such as Gas does it become ignitable. And its not even the nitrous thats being ignitied directly, its the fuel being ignited then buring the extra Oxygen molecules in the N2O:p

N2O = 2 oxygen molecules per every nitrogen molecule, this is the simple reason you have to add more FUEL to the car when running nitrous. If nitrous were flamable on its own you wouldnt need more fuel:cool:

Originally posted by chesee48
And 95% of your posts are helpful huh Stik?
:rolleyes:

Anyways, does anyone know of any f-bodies shooting flames? No one i know personally ever did it or plans on it.


I hope those rolling eyes arent for me!!!
nitrous is a NON FLAMABLE gas. Only when mixed with a combustible such as Gas does it become ignitable. And its not even the nitrous thats being ignitied directly, its the fuel being ignited then buring the extra Oxygen molecules in the N2O:p

N2O = 2 oxygen molecules per every nitrogen molecule, this is the simple reason you have to add more FUEL to the car when running nitrous. If nitrous were flamable on its own you wouldnt need more fuel:cool:

No..the rolling eyes were directed at the person suggesting only purging the Nitrous lines to the exhaust.

-Mike

Originally posted by TriPinTaZ


N2O = 2 oxygen molecules per every nitrogen molecule, this is the simple reason you have to add more FUEL to the car when running nitrous. If nitrous were flamable on its own you wouldnt need more fuel:cool:

i beleive the reason you have to add more gas when you run N20 is to cool the burn in the combustion chamber.Also the higher the octane means it burns cooler. thats why if fuel pressure is to low or to low octane is used EGT temps go up because the burn in the combustion chamber is to hot.
thats what I read in MM&FF

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'88 Saleen- 310cid paxton Novi 2000 best et 9.32@145
'95 Saleen S351 - stock
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Originally posted by TriPinTaZ


N2O = 2 oxygen molecules per every nitrogen molecule, this is the simple reason you have to add more FUEL to the car when running nitrous. If nitrous were flamable on its own you wouldnt need more fuel:cool:

i beleive the reason you have to add more gas when you run N20 is to cool the burn in the combustion chamber.Also the higher the octane means it burns cooler. thats why if fuel pressure is to low or to low octane is used EGT temps go up because the burn in the combustion chamber is to hot.
thats what I read in MM&FF

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'00 TA-MTI lid,Hurst,Borla cat back,KB DD SFC's, Nitto Dr's
'88 Saleen- 310cid paxton Novi 2000 best et 9.32@145
'95 Saleen S351 - stock
my site- www.renegadesaleen.com

My "flamethrowing" exhaust consists of: Longtube headers, off-road y-pipe, and no muffler. Oh yea, I'm running a little rich, also. :D

[QUOTE]Originally posted by stik6shift98
[B]a easy way to do it is if u have nitrous run the purge to the exhaust and every time you purgu a huge flame will come out....


:no: n20 is not flamable. that sounds like a statement a 16 y/o with a riced civic would say at cruise in show.

Originally posted by caspergotaz28
:bs:

Actually this is not :bs: it is real. Look at what I have set up. I have done nothing else to the car. When I put in the Y pipe and off road pipe along with the SLP LM, my car which is an LT1 will throw a decent sized ball of flame out of each tail pipe. The car has to get high in the RPM's and then when I switch gears it's when it happens. And it "pops" really loud when it does, like a backfire. It only does it when the car is cold. Once it has been driven for 15 or 20 minutes it won't do it any more, or at least as much. Again, I have done nothing to the computer and only what is in the sig. People have pulled up next to me and said that it's cool. I was thinking of fixing it, but I rather run rich and spend a little more in gas and just have the effect.