IM sooo ready for Zaino Swirl remover

95BlackTA
02-13-2003, 11:05 PM
I know you guys are working on that secret thingy from Zaino, and I know its Swirl remover that can simply be put onto of your existing Zaino with no negative effects, and will wipe away all my swirlies...So hurry up and GET IT OUT TO ME!!!
Im sick of these damn things

Topless01WS6
02-14-2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by 95BlackTA
I know you guys are working on that secret thingy from Zaino, and I know its Swirl remover that can simply be put onto of your existing Zaino with no negative effects, and will wipe away all my swirlies...So hurry up and GET IT OUT TO ME!!!
Im sick of these damn things

Waino doesnt work miracles. In fact it doesnt even come close. If youre talking about Z5.... HAHAHAHAHA..... if youre waiting for something from zaino to remove swirl markes..... HAHAHAHAHA...... youll be waiting awile. Just my .02.

SpecForceZ28
02-14-2003, 01:07 AM
Depends on how you use it. Obviously if you don't know how to use Zaino, or any wax/polish for that matter, then it will come out crappy. Just read the directions when you get it, and hope it gets rid of the swirls.

Kevin V 2002 SS
02-14-2003, 07:47 AM
The Z-5 will gradually fill in the existing swirl marks. The worse they are, the more layers it will take. The MOST important thing is to NOT be constantly putting in new swirls or it will be a loosing battle. Use 100% cotton mitts and towels (the real good ones) and develop a very light touch.

As far as new Zaino products, Sal will not release new products until they have been thoroughly tested and meet his high standards. The ZFX was tested for a considerable time even before it was tested by several of us for 2 years before it was actually released. The good part, he is always trying ways to creat new products and make the current products even better.

hcvone
02-14-2003, 07:54 AM
New products? :D :D

Darth Xed
02-14-2003, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by Topless01WS6
Waino doesnt work miracles. In fact it doesnt even come close. If youre talking about Z5.... HAHAHAHAHA..... if youre waiting for something from zaino to remove swirl markes..... HAHAHAHAHA...... youll be waiting awile. Just my .02.


:yawn:

MikeLS
02-14-2003, 09:08 AM
Well, you're close, but not quite there. ;) I guess the only thing I can say is that there "would" be negative effects to adding it on top of the existing Zaino. Think about it like this.....if you applied 3M SMR on top of Z, what would it do...? :D

As has been mentioned, it's going to be a while until you see a finalized version for sale, due to extensive testing. It will be exciting though because the product does/will work great! :p

:)

MikeLS
02-14-2003, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Topless01WS6
Zaino doesnt work miracles. In fact it doesnt even come close.

Oh, only the fact that it's the longest lasting, most protective, and arguably shiniest product around....nah it doesn't do anything special. :rolleyes: And, oh, it must certainly be worse than Turtle wax right? You know all about TW and I'm sure it's the absolute best thing going....:rolleyes: I hear TW is highly respected on the show car circuit, lmfao.....

blkZ28Conv
02-14-2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by 95BlackTA
I know you guys are working on that secret thingy from Zaino, and I know its Swirl remover that can simply be put onto of your existing Zaino with no negative effects, and will wipe away all my swirlies...So hurry up and GET IT OUT TO ME!!!
Im sick of these damn things


There are no short cuts to a swirl-free finish. There are no miracle cures available or will be. The only cure for swirls is prep work and prevention. Filling a swirl with oils or Zaino does not remove the swirl but only make it less apparant.
Start over and eliminate your surface marring and present your Zaino to the best carvas possible.
I have a black 95 that is rather swirl/ haze/ and marr-free:)

http://www.autopia.org/gallery/showgallery.php?thumb=1&stype=2&si=blkZ28Conv&cat=500&perpage=12&sort=1&ppuser=1037

95BlackTA
02-14-2003, 06:04 PM
Yea i know, nothing is gonna be a miracle cure...Just kinda messing around. I do need to start over again, which blows alot, cause its gonna take sooo much time that I dont have. Maybe ill just wait for summer to get here when ill have some free time(outa school).

I thought I was preventing it enough...I had one wash mit for windows and kick panals, and then one 100% cotton covered spunge from pep boys(this thing is fine right?)
To dry I use a clean water blade that I wipe off after every swipe..I wipe if off on an absorber, which I then use to detail the rest of the water with.

Do you think my $20 car cover from walmart would cause these things? I doubt it because its not like the cover is rubbing on it.

Please let me know if you know where I might be getting the swirlies from,caues I need to find out before i start all over again ya know?

Kevin V 2002 SS
02-14-2003, 07:23 PM
If the packaging or label of the towel or mitt says 100% cotton it should be fine. The good 100% cotton towels will even have the cotton logo on the label.

blkZ28Conv
02-15-2003, 08:51 AM
I am not a fan of outdoor use of car covers. No matter how soft the contact material, there will likely be some abrasive material that gets trap between it and your paint. It is a tough decision whether to use of not to use because of differing situations. If all your detailing techniques and tools are good, look into the possibility of car cover micro-marring. I used a car cover for years on a red car, no obvious damage because red is so forgiving. Black... even falling pollen causes swirls!:cry:

95BlackTA
02-15-2003, 11:19 PM
Hmm, yea I gotta use my cover to keep it clean, and cause I always get up early for work or school, and if its not covered its covered in dew and fog crap that I cant see outa any of the windows.
Sucks if thats whats causing it though:(

TullyGirL
02-19-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by MikeLS
Well, you're close, but not quite there. ;) I guess the only thing I can say is that there "would" be negative effects to adding it on top of the existing Zaino. Think about it like this.....if you applied 3M SMR on top of Z, what would it do...? :D

As has been mentioned, it's going to be a while until you see a finalized version for sale, due to extensive testing. It will be exciting though because the product does/will work great! :p


I'm not sure I follow. Is it bad to apply Zaino on top of Meguiar's swirl remover?

Zaino's swirl-remover sounds interesting, but I'm pretty happy with Meguiar's. Easy to work with and does a good job of keeping my car swirl-free.

hcvone
02-19-2003, 04:53 PM
Zaino Z-5 is not a swirl REMOVER, Z-5 covers or fills in scratches, it does not remove them because Zaino contains no abrasives, and you need an abrasive product to remove swirls, after you use a swirl remover like 3M Scratch and Swirl Remover or Meguiar's Scratch Remover you should wash your car with Dawn to remove any silicones that maybe still on the car, this will help any polish/wax that you use bond better. :)

TullyGirL
02-19-2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by hcvone
after you use a swirl remover like 3M Scratch and Swirl Remover or Meguiar's Scratch Remover you should wash your car with Dawn to remove any silicones that maybe still on the car, this will help any polish/wax that you use bond better. :)

Since Meguiar's Swirl Remover 2.0 is a body-shop safe product and doesn't contain any waxes or silicones, can I just go straight to Zaino-ing without the Dawn wash? Or does the Dawn wash apply to this product as well?

hcvone
02-19-2003, 05:48 PM
They say silicone free as does 3M SSR, but they contain a small amount silicone, it is better to Dawn wash for the best adhesion.

TullyGirL
02-19-2003, 05:57 PM
Ok, thanks for the tip!

MikeLS
02-19-2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by TullyGirL
I'm not sure I follow. Is it bad to apply Zaino on top of Meguiar's swirl remover?

Zaino's swirl-remover sounds interesting, but I'm pretty happy with Meguiar's. Easy to work with and does a good job of keeping my car swirl-free.

Carl cleared it up nicely already, and he's right. It's not necessarily "bad" to apply Z on top of Meguiar's SMR, but for the best possible results you will need to wash off the oils left from the SMR so that the Z polish can bond as strongly as possible. Z won't bond well, or at all, with oils or other silicones, so this will reduce your durability and protection greatly. Any time you apply a SMR, be sure to wash or at least QD that area if you plan to apply more Z.

I think what is confusing you is that we are referring to a Zaino product that isn't even on the market yet. As Carl mentioned, the Zaino Z5 is not a "remover" but a filler, since it contains no abrasives. The new Z product will be more like (only better) 3M or Meguiar's SMR than Z5. ;)

Hope that clear up some confusion!

:)

Error
02-20-2003, 07:47 PM
I have a 96 Tacoma and the 87 Formula. Both have worn Zaino for about a year and a half. My truck went through 5+ years of Armor All wax and was swirlled all to hell. NO swirlies now. Keep regular coats of Z5 and Z2 (alternate at random) on it. Use cotton, blah blah blah...

87 Formula has the original paint... how's it look to you guys? (pardon the dent in the nose... previous owner :mad: ) Gets a coat of Z5 about once every 3 months. No clear-coat. 15 year old paint. Swirlled bad from Turtle Wax until I got the Z. No swirlies anymore.

87 Formula
http://68.56.66.243/~printerror/firebird/Images/31.jpg

96 Tacoma
http://68.56.66.243/~printerror/truckzaino/truckzaino-Images/0.jpg

I'm not praising the product or saying it's the best, it's god, whatever... I use it, I like it. It works for me. I'm happy. Take your other waxes and use em on your cars. Sal has a happy customer in me.

LILBLKZ28SS
02-21-2003, 06:08 AM
As has been mentioned, it's going to be a while until you see a finalized version for sale, due to extensive testing. It will be exciting though because the product does/will work great!

Now wait just a darn minute, It sounds like Mike may already have some of the "new stuff"
:bow: :bow:

MikeLS
02-21-2003, 08:55 AM
Hmmmm, you might be right! ;)

Stay tuned....

:p


Mike
:D